US Politics Thread

[stubbo-admin]

Seems like the main politics thread is becoming a Yankee-Doodle Trump-fest, so maybe scope here to split them out.

Will see if this one gains any traction ..if it does will move over a few of the million posts from our two protagonists from the other thread.

Yee-haaa!

[Nutsin]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2026/02/10/for ... -2025.html

worst quarterly earnings in 4 years.

The EPS coming in 32% below consensus was the company's first quarterly miss since 2024 and its worst since a 42% difference when reporting its 2021 fourth-quarter results, according to LSEG.

The earnings miss was largely due to unexpected tariff costs of roughly $900 million

Ford's net tariff impact is expected to be roughly flat year-over-year at $2 billion in 2026


elsewhere - https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/10/new-yor ... llion.html

Americans ended 2025 more in debt than ever before.

Credit card balances hit a fresh high in the fourth quarter, rising by $44 billion to $1.28 trillion, according to a new report on household debt by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York released Tuesday. That’s a 5.5% jump from a year earlier.

First off The 4th quarter GDP first print hasn’t been released yet.

As I already told you it is the Atlanta Fed who is the benchmark for forecasting GDP numbers, They now estimate the 4th quarter at 3.7% which is still a good print especially when you factor in a ridiculously stupid Democratic driven Gov’t shut down. 3rd quarter revised print came in at 4.4%, I’d say the US economy is doing just fine. As are exports.

All the Jan data is off the charts as I’ve already explained to you.

These GDP prints are far better than you or any of your propaganda economists forecast at the start of the Trump presidency and appear to be continuing to show high growth in spite of the Dems doing whatever they can to slow it down and an unaccomodating Fed.

As I already told you- you’ll pull a Cappy by April.

You’re clutching at straws and the more desperate you get the sillier and the more ignorant you look.

And that will happen!

So retarded to be arguing about this still, you don’t even realize yet just how wrong you are, it’s pure comedy gold.

It's not been released yet but you were happy to shout 5% as if it was gospel.
Altanta fed nowcast isn't a forecast at all - as the name suggests its a reflection of the here and now.

the FY GDP we're talking about is 'meh'. 
not the 5% you and trump were talking about, certainly not the 15% he claims will happen.

"off the charts" lol
off which chart? not one that includes 2024 or previous i'm guessing.

i dont think the americans who are forced to buy things on credit, or cannot afford to pay that credit back are laughing.

Lol credit card debt is nothing new ffs,read the chart attached numbnuts. 


https://share.google/cafZX4VxMTwwUjt4q

[goose]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2026/02/10/for ... -2025.html

worst quarterly earnings in 4 years.

The EPS coming in 32% below consensus was the company's first quarterly miss since 2024 and its worst since a 42% difference when reporting its 2021 fourth-quarter results, according to LSEG.

The earnings miss was largely due to unexpected tariff costs of roughly $900 million

Ford's net tariff impact is expected to be roughly flat year-over-year at $2 billion in 2026


elsewhere - https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/10/new-yor ... llion.html

Americans ended 2025 more in debt than ever before.

Credit card balances hit a fresh high in the fourth quarter, rising by $44 billion to $1.28 trillion, according to a new report on household debt by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York released Tuesday. That’s a 5.5% jump from a year earlier.

First off The 4th quarter GDP first print hasn’t been released yet.

As I already told you it is the Atlanta Fed who is the benchmark for forecasting GDP numbers, They now estimate the 4th quarter at 3.7% which is still a good print especially when you factor in a ridiculously stupid Democratic driven Gov’t shut down. 3rd quarter revised print came in at 4.4%, I’d say the US economy is doing just fine. As are exports.

All the Jan data is off the charts as I’ve already explained to you.

These GDP prints are far better than you or any of your propaganda economists forecast at the start of the Trump presidency and appear to be continuing to show high growth in spite of the Dems doing whatever they can to slow it down and an unaccomodating Fed.

As I already told you- you’ll pull a Cappy by April.

You’re clutching at straws and the more desperate you get the sillier and the more ignorant you look.

And that will happen!

So retarded to be arguing about this still, you don’t even realize yet just how wrong you are, it’s pure comedy gold.

It's not been released yet but you were happy to shout 5% as if it was gospel.
Altanta fed nowcast isn't a forecast at all - as the name suggests its a reflection of the here and now.

the FY GDP we're talking about is 'meh'. 
not the 5% you and trump were talking about, certainly not the 15% he claims will happen.

"off the charts" lol
off which chart? not one that includes 2024 or previous i'm guessing.

i dont think the americans who are forced to buy things on credit, or cannot afford to pay that credit back are laughing.

[Nutsin]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2026/02/10/for ... -2025.html

worst quarterly earnings in 4 years.

The EPS coming in 32% below consensus was the company's first quarterly miss since 2024 and its worst since a 42% difference when reporting its 2021 fourth-quarter results, according to LSEG.

The earnings miss was largely due to unexpected tariff costs of roughly $900 million

Ford's net tariff impact is expected to be roughly flat year-over-year at $2 billion in 2026


elsewhere - https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/10/new-yor ... llion.html

Americans ended 2025 more in debt than ever before.

Credit card balances hit a fresh high in the fourth quarter, rising by $44 billion to $1.28 trillion, according to a new report on household debt by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York released Tuesday. That’s a 5.5% jump from a year earlier.

First off The 4th quarter GDP first print hasn’t been released yet.

As I already told you it is the Atlanta Fed who is the benchmark for forecasting GDP numbers, They now estimate the 4th quarter at 3.7% which is still a good print especially when you factor in a ridiculously stupid Democratic driven Gov’t shut down. 3rd quarter revised print came in at 4.4%, I’d say the US economy is doing just fine. As are exports.

All the Jan data is off the charts as I’ve already explained to you.

These GDP prints are far better than you or any of your propaganda economists forecast at the start of the Trump presidency and appear to be continuing to show high growth in spite of the Dems doing whatever they can to slow it down and an unaccomodating Fed.

As I already told you- you’ll pull a Cappy by April.

You’re clutching at straws and the more desperate you get the sillier and the more ignorant you look.

And that will happen!

So retarded to be arguing about this still, you don’t even realize yet just how wrong you are, it’s pure comedy gold.

[goose]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2026/02/10/for ... -2025.html

worst quarterly earnings in 4 years.

The EPS coming in 32% below consensus was the company's first quarterly miss since 2024 and its worst since a 42% difference when reporting its 2021 fourth-quarter results, according to LSEG.

The earnings miss was largely due to unexpected tariff costs of roughly $900 million

Ford's net tariff impact is expected to be roughly flat year-over-year at $2 billion in 2026


elsewhere - https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/10/new-yor ... llion.html

Americans ended 2025 more in debt than ever before.

Credit card balances hit a fresh high in the fourth quarter, rising by $44 billion to $1.28 trillion, according to a new report on household debt by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York released Tuesday. That’s a 5.5% jump from a year earlier.

[goose]

Not quite, we have Manufacturing printing at 52.6 
Private sector jobs at 170,000
Job numbers of 130,000 when you back out the cull in Gov’t jobs.
Stock market at an all time high!
Cap Ex booming!
GDP taking off…… Blue sky Baby!

The Golden years! Your shrinking!

One month doesn’t make a trend. And a one month bump in healthcare jobs isn’t a booming economy. Quite the opposite.

I agree one month does not make a trend but It’s a great start. We’ll see what February numbers say. I reckon by April you’ll pull a Cappy.

Did you notice your 5% Q4 GDP has now been revised down to 3.7%?
Becasue what you were quoting is not a GDP forecast its a 'nowcast' for a point in time.

its been revised downwards because of softer consumer spending.

NY Fed assumption for Q4 is 2.7%. so somewhere between 2.1% to 2.4% full year? hardly "taking off" is it?

[Nutsin]

I’ll take that as a yes then. Are we ignoring the rise in input costs as well?

on top of 12 months of contraction of the manufacturing industry, you’ve had:
$2trn added to the national debt 
Zero job growth 
record level of personal debt
highest credit card defaults since 2008
persistent inflation and cost of living increases 
highest level of auto loan defaults since 2008
highest level of bankruptcies in 15 years

and the lowest approval rating of any president on record 

Not quite, we have Manufacturing printing at 52.6 
Private sector jobs at 170,000
Job numbers of 130,000 when you back out the cull in Gov’t jobs.
Stock market at an all time high!
Cap Ex booming!
GDP taking off…… Blue sky Baby!

The Golden years! Your shrinking!

One month doesn’t make a trend. And a one month bump in healthcare jobs isn’t a booming economy. Quite the opposite.

I agree one month does not make a trend but It’s a great start. We’ll see what February numbers say. I reckon by April you’ll pull a Cappy.

[goose]

I didn’t think you would watch. It’s getting to be about that time that you will start burying your head in the sand.

Not much longer now before you pull a Cappy!

I’ll take that as a yes then. Are we ignoring the rise in input costs as well?

on top of 12 months of contraction of the manufacturing industry, you’ve had:
$2trn added to the national debt 
Zero job growth 
record level of personal debt
highest credit card defaults since 2008
persistent inflation and cost of living increases 
highest level of auto loan defaults since 2008
highest level of bankruptcies in 15 years

and the lowest approval rating of any president on record 

Not quite, we have Manufacturing printing at 52.6 
Private sector jobs at 170,000
Job numbers of 130,000 when you back out the cull in Gov’t jobs.
Stock market at an all time high!
Cap Ex booming!
GDP taking off…… Blue sky Baby!

The Golden years! Your shrinking!

One month doesn’t make a trend. And a one month bump in healthcare jobs isn’t a booming economy. Quite the opposite.

[Nutsin]

I can’t be bothered to watch it, does it have any actual facts in it or just hot air?
if it’s one month with a tiny increase in jobs and orders after 12 months of continuous contraction then don’t waste my time.

I didn’t think you would watch. It’s getting to be about that time that you will start burying your head in the sand.

Not much longer now before you pull a Cappy!

I’ll take that as a yes then. Are we ignoring the rise in input costs as well?

on top of 12 months of contraction of the manufacturing industry, you’ve had:
$2trn added to the national debt 
Zero job growth 
record level of personal debt
highest credit card defaults since 2008
persistent inflation and cost of living increases 
highest level of auto loan defaults since 2008
highest level of bankruptcies in 15 years

and the lowest approval rating of any president on record 

Not quite, we have Manufacturing printing at 52.6 
Private sector jobs at 170,000
Job numbers of 130,000 when you back out the cull in Gov’t jobs.
Stock market at an all time high!
Cap Ex booming!
GDP taking off…… Blue sky Baby!

The Golden years! Your shrinking!

[goose]

Poor Goose. I think you should watch this, you might learn something.

I can’t be bothered to watch it, does it have any actual facts in it or just hot air?
if it’s one month with a tiny increase in jobs and orders after 12 months of continuous contraction then don’t waste my time.

I didn’t think you would watch. It’s getting to be about that time that you will start burying your head in the sand.

Not much longer now before you pull a Cappy!

I’ll take that as a yes then. Are we ignoring the rise in input costs as well?

on top of 12 months of contraction of the manufacturing industry, you’ve had:
$2trn added to the national debt 
Zero job growth 
record level of personal debt
highest credit card defaults since 2008
persistent inflation and cost of living increases 
highest level of auto loan defaults since 2008
highest level of bankruptcies in 15 years

and the lowest approval rating of any president on record 

[Nutsin]

Poor Goose. I think you should watch this, you might learn something.

I can’t be bothered to watch it, does it have any actual facts in it or just hot air?
if it’s one month with a tiny increase in jobs and orders after 12 months of continuous contraction then don’t waste my time.

I didn’t think you would watch. It’s getting to be about that time that you will start burying your head in the sand.

Not much longer now before you pull a Cappy!

[goose]

Poor Goose. I think you should watch this, you might learn something.

I can’t be bothered to watch it, does it have any actual facts in it or just hot air?
if it’s one month with a tiny increase in jobs and orders after 12 months of continuous contraction then don’t waste my time.

[Nutsin]

Poor Goose. I think you should watch this, you might learn something.

[Nutsin]

[goose]

So we'll just turn a blind eye to when he rapes women shall we?

maybe rapists should get the death penalty as well.

[Nutsin]

Haven’t you read the Epstein files son?

might want to bring yourself up to speed a little.

[goose]

How about this lil chestnut.

Don’t you wish you had a real leader?

I dunno, I prefer my leaders not to rape women.
or wear make up.

[goose]

I bet the fuckwits on here wish they had a leader who was putting more money in their pockets.

 

 

real wage growth in 2025 was 1%.
thats bang average for the last decade or so.

[Nutsin]

I suggest you read the data before posting stuff.
2025 revised down massively (dont be shocked to see this revised down).

driven by healthcare & social assistance (demographic driven).

financial services down
manufacturing flat
retail flat
prof services flat

Everyone but you understands Trump slashed Gov’t Jobs has deported millions of illegals and shut down US dependence on China. He has completely changed the US economic landscape by putting American workers first, look at wage growth and Jobs created for US citizens. 

The sectors that are flat are about to explode this year with Tax cuts now kicking in and Cap ex exploding. Companies get Tarriff relief and Tax relief if they build their plants and factories in the USA. To think that won’t create jobs this year is too retarded to take seriously.

Just wait till we add a new Fed chair and have an accommodating Fed, You’ll go the way of Cappy and Pickle. 

The jobs growth was pretty much zero in 2025 so let’s not pretend.

The rest is just speculation. The growth in personal debt and erosion of savings suggests the tax relief will be spent elsewhere.

The latest data proves that Powell was 100% correct in his actions, no matter how much pressure the orange rapist puts on him.

“The rest is just speculation” LOL says the idiot who is playing the long game.

Give It a rest ffs!  You’re embarassing yourself!

[Nutsin]

How about this lil chestnut.

Don’t you wish you had a real leader?

[goose]

I suggest you read the data before posting stuff.
2025 revised down massively (dont be shocked to see this revised down).

driven by healthcare & social assistance (demographic driven).

financial services down
manufacturing flat
retail flat
prof services flat

Everyone but you understands Trump slashed Gov’t Jobs has deported millions of illegals and shut down US dependence on China. He has completely changed the US economic landscape by putting American workers first, look at wage growth and Jobs created for US citizens. 

The sectors that are flat are about to explode this year with Tax cuts now kicking in and Cap ex exploding. Companies get Tarriff relief and Tax relief if they build their plants and factories in the USA. To think that won’t create jobs this year is too retarded to take seriously.

Just wait till we add a new Fed chair and have an accommodating Fed, You’ll go the way of Cappy and Pickle. 

The jobs growth was pretty much zero in 2025 so let’s not pretend.

The rest is just speculation. The growth in personal debt and erosion of savings suggests the tax relief will be spent elsewhere.

The latest data proves that Powell was 100% correct in his actions, no matter how much pressure the orange rapist puts on him.

[Nutsin]

I bet the fuckwits on here wish they had a leader who was putting more money in their pockets.

[Nutsin]

Here you Go Goose!

[Nutsin]

Even CNN are forced to acknowledge the truth for once.

[Nutsin]

I suggest you read the data before posting stuff.
2025 revised down massively (dont be shocked to see this revised down).

driven by healthcare & social assistance (demographic driven).

financial services down
manufacturing flat
retail flat
prof services flat

Everyone but you understands Trump slashed Gov’t Jobs has deported millions of illegals and shut down US dependence on China. He has completely changed the US economic landscape by putting American workers first, look at wage growth and Jobs created for US citizens. 

The sectors that are flat are about to explode this year with Tax cuts now kicking in and Cap ex exploding. Companies get Tarriff relief and Tax relief if they build their plants and factories in the USA. To think that won’t create jobs this year is too retarded to take seriously.

Just wait till we add a new Fed chair and have an accommodating Fed, You’ll go the way of Cappy and Pickle. 

[Nutsin]

Let’s talk about crime for a minute.