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Trump: Smart Cookie or Orange Oaf?

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Seems like the main politics thread is becoming a Yankee-Doodle Trump-fest, so maybe scope here to split them out.

Will see if this one gains any traction ..if it does will move over a few of the million posts from our two protagonists from the other thread.

Yee-haaa!
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goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 21:01 So the solution is making the Middle East even more unstable, pissing off key allies in the region, breeding further anti west feelings and laying the foundation for a global economic crisis.

I’d hate to see what plan B was.

No, the solution is to crush the Iranian Regime from bullying other Countries by neutering them badly. The one's pissing those off in the Region is the Iranian Regime showing their true colours by lashing out indiscriminately (their modus operandi) at neighbour states. It's the Yanks that neighbours like Qatar are thanking for offering. Right I'm having to raise the White flag for now as Madrid just scored a 5th! 😂 🏳
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Massive Attack" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 20:31
goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 20:17
Massive Attack" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 20:14

Couple it all with the nuclear weapons programme and production issue this past 6 months, as well as the attacks on Israel/US base, then yeah it's a major issue that needed addressing.
There isn't one reliable bit of evidence which shows they have the capability of building a nuclear weapon.
They certainly haven't produced any nuclear weapons.

Iran still has highly enriched uranium stocks and The IAEA estimates ​that when Israel launched its first attacks in June, Iran had 440.9 kg of 60% of enriched uranium. 

They only need 3% enrichment for public use like energy. 

Maybe the IAEA are lying to us and in on it as well.
 
 
 
 
Shame that Trump tore up the nuclear treaty with Iran then.
This will be a lesson to other countries that have nascent nuclear programmes to get them completed as soon as possible as they are sitting ducks and at the mercy of the whims of whoever is POTUS given that congress has no backbone any more..
People such as Kim Jong Un will have learned this,
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So the solution is making the Middle East even more unstable, pissing off key allies in the region, breeding further anti west feelings and laying the foundation for a global economic crisis.

I’d hate to see what plan B was.
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No good came of the past 47 years reign of terror because of Iran. My issue is they should have been dealt with much sooner.
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Massive Attack" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 20:31
goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 20:17
Massive Attack" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 20:14

Couple it all with the nuclear weapons programme and production issue this past 6 months, as well as the attacks on Israel/US base, then yeah it's a major issue that needed addressing.
There isn't one reliable bit of evidence which shows they have the capability of building a nuclear weapon.
They certainly haven't produced any nuclear weapons.

Iran still has highly enriched uranium stocks and The IAEA estimates ​that when Israel launched its first attacks in June, Iran had 440.9 kg of 60% of enriched uranium. 

They only need 3% enrichment for public use like energy. 

Maybe the IAEA are lying to us and in on it as well.
But no capability to turn any of that into weapons.
And if they did the UN security council would have approved any action.

They didn't have the capability and this is an illegal war.
It was about regime change, then it was nuclear weapons and then the threat of an imminent attack.
Now its about complete surrender.

No good will come from all of this.
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goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 20:17
Massive Attack" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 20:14
goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:59
 
The second one is a big reach. The only one within the last year says there’s no confirmation of an attack and they don’t know who did it.

Let’s believe it anyway, why waiting 9 months to act? Let’s not pretend that is the reason for all this.

and if it’s regime changes you’re after then you will be disappointed.

Couple it all with the nuclear weapons programme and production issue this past 6 months, as well as the attacks on Israel/US base, then yeah it's a major issue that needed addressing.
There isn't one reliable bit of evidence which shows they have the capability of building a nuclear weapon.
They certainly haven't produced any nuclear weapons.

Iran still has highly enriched uranium stocks and The IAEA estimates ​that when Israel launched its first attacks in June, Iran had 440.9 kg of 60% of enriched uranium. 

They only need 3% enrichment for public use like energy. 

Maybe the IAEA are lying to us and in on it as well.
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The numbers killed by Hamas,Hezbolah and the Hooties are uncountable and these TERROIST organisations couldn't exist without funding from Iran. Surely a weakened Iran can only be a good thing for the rest of the world? Also, I can't help thinking that a lot of the vitriol surrounding this war wouldn't be half as potent were Trump not in charge. He could cure cancer tomorrow and they'll be some saying he should have left the disease alone. And is the rest of the world supposed to just sit back,  watch and wait whilst Iran builds up the means to destroy us all? 
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Massive Attack" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 20:14
goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:59
Massive Attack" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:51
 
 
  • November 2024: Iran and its proxies conducted more than 180 attacks against U.S. forces in the Middle East, wounded more than 180 U.S. service members and killing three service members.
  • November 2024: An Iranian national and IRGC asset was charged for plotting to assassinate President Trump.
  • June 2025: Iran-backed militias attacked at least three U.S. bases in Syria and two U.S. bases in Iraq.
 
The second one is a big reach. The only one within the last year says there’s no confirmation of an attack and they don’t know who did it.

Let’s believe it anyway, why waiting 9 months to act? Let’s not pretend that is the reason for all this.

and if it’s regime changes you’re after then you will be disappointed.

Couple it all with the nuclear weapons programme and production issue this past 6 months, as well as the attacks on Israel/US base, then yeah it's a major issue that needed addressing.
There isn't one reliable bit of evidence which shows they have the capability of building a nuclear weapon.
They certainly haven't produced any nuclear weapons.
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goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:59
Massive Attack" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:51
goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:45
 
So in the last year how many Iranian proxy attacks on the US has their been?
 
 
  • November 2024: Iran and its proxies conducted more than 180 attacks against U.S. forces in the Middle East, wounded more than 180 U.S. service members and killing three service members.
  • November 2024: An Iranian national and IRGC asset was charged for plotting to assassinate President Trump.
  • June 2025: Iran-backed militias attacked at least three U.S. bases in Syria and two U.S. bases in Iraq.
 
The second one is a big reach. The only one within the last year says there’s no confirmation of an attack and they don’t know who did it.

Let’s believe it anyway, why waiting 9 months to act? Let’s not pretend that is the reason for all this.

and if it’s regime changes you’re after then you will be disappointed.

Couple it all with the nuclear weapons programme and production issue this past 6 months, as well as the attacks on Israel/US base, then yeah it's a major issue that needed addressing.
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Nutsin wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:57
Mike Oxsaw" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:45
Nutsin wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:34
Actually Mincy, I thought you were Joyo’s muse.

Yeah I’m seeking approval, fucking hell! You really do have your head up your arse.

As I said take your tired, boring Trantifa act elsewhere. Nobody cares mate!
 
Probably best for all if you don't try thinking again then, your evolutionary tree is clearly behind the rest of humanity on those abilities.

If you're not seeking approval, why post all that shit up on here? What is your aim?

And, now I've clearly got your attention,  how do you know for a fact that your information sources are 100% kosher, yet those supplying information about which you don't agree or accept are propaganda machines?
Fuck me you still talking Mincy?
Only if you're still thinking, you absolute bottling fanatic.

Can't prove your information sources are kosher? You're a simpleton believer, led by the nose by whatever the media says that sounds good to you. Yippy-aye-ai.
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Nutsin wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:56
goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:44
Nutsin wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:29
 
The fact they are enriching uranium to weapons grade and have networks underground developing their capabilities coupled with a defiant objective of death to Israel and death to America I’d say there’s plenty of reason to go in and take them out.

at what point do you think they should act? After they have a bomb ffs?
 
Need a hand moving those goalposts? Imminent threat suddenly becomes enriching uranium.

Enriching uranium isn’t illegal and there was no verified evidence of them creating nuclear weapons. They certainly didn’t have any.

Are we now bombing every country who enriches uranium? Pakistan? Netherlands? India?
Or do we just bomb the ones using mean words?
Unfortunately India and Pakistan already have Nukes and the Dutch are no threat to anyone. So it’s all just your typical silly nonsense again…… You’re not all there mate!
You’re like Trump with the constant lies, contradictions and backtracking on why he started his illegal war.
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Massive Attack" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:51
goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:45
Massive Attack" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:39

Multiple times through proxies that they sponsor.
 
So in the last year how many Iranian proxy attacks on the US has their been?
 
 
  • November 2024: Iran and its proxies conducted more than 180 attacks against U.S. forces in the Middle East, wounded more than 180 U.S. service members and killing three service members.
  • November 2024: An Iranian national and IRGC asset was charged for plotting to assassinate President Trump.
  • June 2025: Iran-backed militias attacked at least three U.S. bases in Syria and two U.S. bases in Iraq.
 
 
The second one is a big reach. The only one within the last year says there’s no confirmation of an attack and they don’t know who did it.

Let’s believe it anyway, why waiting 9 months to act? Let’s not pretend that is the reason for all this.

and if it’s regime changes you’re after then you will be disappointed.
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Mike Oxsaw" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:45
Nutsin wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:34
Mike Oxsaw" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:27
 
And yet you boasting (BOASTING) about just working for a living and raising kids into adulthood gives you some sort of superior status? Simple things we nearly all have done?

You're about as insecure a materialist as they come, constantly seeking approval or attempting to paint yourself as "a cut above" everybody else (using your own personal criteria).

Joyo is my muse. Triggered by me at will. I would have thought someone with your superior intellect would have worked that out long ago.
Actually Mincy, I thought you were Joyo’s muse.

Yeah I’m seeking approval, fucking hell! You really do have your head up your arse.

As I said take your tired, boring Trantifa act elsewhere. Nobody cares mate!
 
Probably best for all if you don't try thinking again then, your evolutionary tree is clearly behind the rest of humanity on those abilities.

If you're not seeking approval, why post all that shit up on here? What is your aim?

And, now I've clearly got your attention,  how do you know for a fact that your information sources are 100% kosher, yet those supplying information about which you don't agree or accept are propaganda machines?
Fuck me you still talking Mincy?
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goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:44
Nutsin wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:29
goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:24
 
Which propaganda network? Your own Pentagon who told Congress there was no intelligence suggesting an attack from Iran?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pentag ... 026-03-02/


Given they dont have nuclear bombs or the capability to hit the USA, it's a simple question to answer.
 
The fact they are enriching uranium to weapons grade and have networks underground developing their capabilities coupled with a defiant objective of death to Israel and death to America I’d say there’s plenty of reason to go in and take them out.

at what point do you think they should act? After they have a bomb ffs?
 
Need a hand moving those goalposts? Imminent threat suddenly becomes enriching uranium.

Enriching uranium isn’t illegal and there was no verified evidence of them creating nuclear weapons. They certainly didn’t have any.

Are we now bombing every country who enriches uranium? Pakistan? Netherlands? India?
Or do we just bomb the ones using mean words?
Unfortunately India and Pakistan already have Nukes and the Dutch are no threat to anyone. So it’s all just your typical silly nonsense again…… You’re not all there mate!
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goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:45
Massive Attack" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:39
goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:28
 
When did Iran attack the US? 

Iran and Israel can attack each other all they want, it’s what they all do in that part of the world. It’s none of our or the United States business.

Multiple times through proxies that they sponsor.
 
So in the last year how many Iranian proxy attacks on the US has their been?
 
 
  • November 2024: Iran and its proxies conducted more than 180 attacks against U.S. forces in the Middle East, wounded more than 180 U.S. service members and killing three service members.
  • November 2024: An Iranian national and IRGC asset was charged for plotting to assassinate President Trump.
  • June 2025: Iran-backed militias attacked at least three U.S. bases in Syria and two U.S. bases in Iraq.
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Massive Attack" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:39
goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:28
Massive Attack" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:19

You might want to have a serious word with Iran then for the past 47 long years which is why this has all come about. That's for what.
 
When did Iran attack the US? 

Iran and Israel can attack each other all they want, it’s what they all do in that part of the world. It’s none of our or the United States business.

Multiple times through proxies that they sponsor.
 
 
So in the last year how many Iranian proxy attacks on the US has their been?
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Nutsin wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:34
Mike Oxsaw" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:27
Nutsin wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:13
 
There she/he is. It’s our own lil mincer popping up again.

You know I find it sadly ironic how you try to come on this thread and police it like you have moral ground.

You are constantly squabbling like a little bitch with Joyo on this forum and have no room to talk to others about what they post.

So do us all a favor and take your tired boring Trantifa act somewhere else because nobody cares what you think. About anything.


Have a good day!
 
And yet you boasting (BOASTING) about just working for a living and raising kids into adulthood gives you some sort of superior status? Simple things we nearly all have done?

You're about as insecure a materialist as they come, constantly seeking approval or attempting to paint yourself as "a cut above" everybody else (using your own personal criteria).

Joyo is my muse. Triggered by me at will. I would have thought someone with your superior intellect would have worked that out long ago.
Actually Mincy, I thought you were Joyo’s muse.

Yeah I’m seeking approval, fucking hell! You really do have your head up your arse.

As I said take your tired, boring Trantifa act elsewhere. Nobody cares mate!
 
 
Probably best for all if you don't try thinking again then, your evolutionary tree is clearly behind the rest of humanity on those abilities.

If you're not seeking approval, why post all that shit up on here? What is your aim?

And, now I've clearly got your attention,  how do you know for a fact that your information sources are 100% kosher, yet those supplying information about which you don't agree or accept are propaganda machines?
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Nutsin wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:29
goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:24
Nutsin wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:17
“No imminent threat” ffs! Wonder what propaganda network he got that from.

So we have to wait for there to be an imminent threat of nuclear attack before we act?

Fucking Genius!
 
Which propaganda network? Your own Pentagon who told Congress there was no intelligence suggesting an attack from Iran?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pentag ... 026-03-02/


Given they dont have nuclear bombs or the capability to hit the USA, it's a simple question to answer.
 
The fact they are enriching uranium to weapons grade and have networks underground developing their capabilities coupled with a defiant objective of death to Israel and death to America I’d say there’s plenty of reason to go in and take them out.

at what point do you think they should act? After they have a bomb ffs?
 
 
Need a hand moving those goalposts? Imminent threat suddenly becomes enriching uranium.

Enriching uranium isn’t illegal and there was no verified evidence of them creating nuclear weapons. They certainly didn’t have any.

Are we now bombing every country who enriches uranium? Pakistan? Netherlands? India?
Or do we just bomb the ones using mean words?
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goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:28
Massive Attack" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:19
goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:11 I’m on the side of not starting illegal wars and not destabilising the ME and messing up the global economy.






 

You might want to have a serious word with Iran then for the past 47 long years which is why this has all come about. That's for what.
 
When did Iran attack the US? 

Iran and Israel can attack each other all they want, it’s what they all do in that part of the world. It’s none of our or the United States business.

Multiple times through proxies that they sponsor.
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Mike Oxsaw" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:27
Nutsin wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:13
Mike Oxsaw" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 18:36 Yeah, war indeed does suck, wherever it's waged.

Perhaps a reminder closer to home of the suckiness being inflicted is needed.

Couple of Iranian dirty bombs made from Uranium salvaged from their enrichment facilities.

One on Wall Street, the other in the Pentagon.

Make America Glow Again.






 
 
There she/he is. It’s our own lil mincer popping up again.

You know I find it sadly ironic how you try to come on this thread and police it like you have moral ground.

You are constantly squabbling like a little bitch with Joyo on this forum and have no room to talk to others about what they post.

So do us all a favor and take your tired boring Trantifa act somewhere else because nobody cares what you think. About anything.


Have a good day!
 
And yet you boasting (BOASTING) about just working for a living and raising kids into adulthood gives you some sort of superior status? Simple things we nearly all have done?

You're about as insecure a materialist as they come, constantly seeking approval or attempting to paint yourself as "a cut above" everybody else (using your own personal criteria).

Joyo is my muse. Triggered by me at will. I would have thought someone with your superior intellect would have worked that out long ago.
Actually Mincy, I thought you were Joyo’s muse.

Yeah I’m seeking approval, fucking hell! You really do have your head up your arse.

As I said take your tired, boring Trantifa act elsewhere. Nobody cares mate!
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goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:24
Nutsin wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:17
goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 18:51 There was no imminent threat.
No invasion by Iran
No UN Security Council approval


Nothing legal about this war.
“No imminent threat” ffs! Wonder what propaganda network he got that from.

So we have to wait for there to be an imminent threat of nuclear attack before we act?

Fucking Genius!
 
Which propaganda network? Your own Pentagon who told Congress there was no intelligence suggesting an attack from Iran?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pentag ... 026-03-02/


Given they dont have nuclear bombs or the capability to hit the USA, it's a simple question to answer.
 
 
The fact they are enriching uranium to weapons grade and have networks underground developing their capabilities coupled with a defiant objective of death to Israel and death to America I’d say there’s plenty of reason to go in and take them out.

at what point do you think they should act? After they have a bomb ffs?
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Massive Attack" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:19
goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:11 I’m on the side of not starting illegal wars and not destabilising the ME and messing up the global economy.




 

You might want to have a serious word with Iran then for the past 47 long years which is why this has all come about. That's for what.
 
 
When did Iran attack the US? 

Iran and Israel can attack each other all they want, it’s what they all do in that part of the world. It’s none of our or the United States business.
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Nutsin wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:13
Mike Oxsaw" wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 18:36 Yeah, war indeed does suck, wherever it's waged.

Perhaps a reminder closer to home of the suckiness being inflicted is needed.

Couple of Iranian dirty bombs made from Uranium salvaged from their enrichment facilities.

One on Wall Street, the other in the Pentagon.

Make America Glow Again.





 
 
There she/he is. It’s our own lil mincer popping up again.

You know I find it sadly ironic how you try to come on this thread and police it like you have moral ground.

You are constantly squabbling like a little bitch with Joyo on this forum and have no room to talk to others about what they post.

So do us all a favor and take your tired boring Trantifa act somewhere else because nobody cares what you think. About anything.


Have a good day!
 
 
And yet you boasting (BOASTING) about just working for a living and raising kids into adulthood gives you some sort of superior status? Simple things we nearly all have done?

You're about as insecure a materialist as they come, constantly seeking approval or attempting to paint yourself as "a cut above" everybody else (using your own personal criteria).

Joyo is my muse. Triggered by me at will. I would have thought someone with your superior intellect would have worked that out long ago.
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Nutsin wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:17
goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 18:51 There was no imminent threat.
No invasion by Iran
No UN Security Council approval


Nothing legal about this war.
“No imminent threat” ffs! Wonder what propaganda network he got that from.

So we have to wait for there to be an imminent threat of nuclear attack before we act?

Fucking Genius!
 
 
Which propaganda network? Your own Pentagon who told Congress there was no intelligence suggesting an attack from Iran?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pentag ... 026-03-02/


Given they dont have nuclear bombs or the capability to hit the USA, it's a simple question to answer.
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goose wrote: 10 Mar 2026, 19:11 I’m on the side of not starting illegal wars and not destabilising the ME and messing up the global economy.


 

You might want to have a serious word with Iran then for the past 47 long years which is why this has all come about. That's for what.
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