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Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 12:49
by camel-with-3-humps
In light of the horrific display at Wolves, is Max Kilman the worst centre back we've had? There is probably worse, but I can't remember. 

Gary Breen was pretty bad. He didn't make as many mistakes as Kilman, but he was weak -  like a road cone easily bypassed. 

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Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 16 Jan 2026, 16:05
by Eerie Decent
Yeah, by all accounts it was Sullivan who got Fabianski in, thank fuck.
 

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 16 Jan 2026, 14:50
by Ron Eff
Eerie Decent" wrote: 16 Jan 2026, 10:01 I can just remember the big baggy kit!

I suppose we're all guilty of looking at things from more recent memory, but Roberto was truly horrific. That Burnley away game is the worst individual performance you will ever see from a professional footballer.
 

Ultimately finished Pellegrini’s potentially positive tenure for me. The mistake signing him, compounded by his reluctance/stubbornness to dropping him, all saw a horrific run of form. He made David Martin, nice bloke though he is, look like a Premier League keeper rather than the journeyman lower league “training ground” keeper he was. 

Moreso because I recall rumours that he saw Roberto as #1 when he signed rather than back up to Fabianski, albeit he did only came in once Fab got injured I think. 

Fucking hell, what a car crash of a keeper 😂

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 16 Jan 2026, 12:49
by eusebiovic
Far Cough UKunt" wrote: 16 Jan 2026, 12:46 Yeah but Yeovil's old ground had a 8-foot (2.4 m) side to side slope, ideal for players like Todibo and Kelly who had one leg longer than the other.
The legendary Brazilian Garrincha would've been right at home in Somerset as well then! 

According to his biography the bloke was into a bit of goat shagging as well.

It's a stonking good read for anybody interested in football - it's mental 🤯

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 16 Jan 2026, 12:46
by Far Cough UKunt
Yeah but Yeovil's old ground had a 8-foot (2.4 m) side to side slope, ideal for players like Todibo and Kelly who had one leg longer than the other.

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 16 Jan 2026, 12:40
by eusebiovic
Far Cough UKunt" wrote: 16 Jan 2026, 09:40
violator wrote: 16 Jan 2026, 08:33 Didn't David Kelly have one leg longer than the other, which might explain his utter shitness
Good for playing on the old Yeovil pitch though.
The old Plough Lane ground when the crazy gang played there wasn't exactly flat either but nobody ever seemed to mention that! It wasn't actually located in what most people would think of as the romantic, stereotypical tennis and ladies who do tea idea of Wimbledon either.

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 16 Jan 2026, 10:01
by Eerie Decent
I can just remember the big baggy kit!

I suppose we're all guilty of looking at things from more recent memory, but Roberto was truly horrific. That Burnley away game is the worst individual performance you will ever see from a professional footballer.

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 16 Jan 2026, 09:47
by Takashi Miike
Eerie Decent" wrote: 16 Jan 2026, 09:42 Yes Miike, unfortunately 😂

But he played 1 game, from memory.
most terrifying one game ever, really nice bloke though. not sure who was more scared, him or us

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 16 Jan 2026, 09:42
by Eerie Decent
Yes Miike, unfortunately 😂

But he played 1 game, from memory.

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 16 Jan 2026, 09:40
by Far Cough UKunt
violator wrote: 16 Jan 2026, 08:33 Didn't David Kelly have one leg longer than the other, which might explain his utter shitness
Good for playing on the old Yeovil pitch though.

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 16 Jan 2026, 09:37
by Takashi Miike
"Roberto is the worst player we have ever had at the club."

did you ever see Ilic? 😂

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 16 Jan 2026, 09:33
by Eerie Decent
What makes Kilman the worst ever signing is the cost, and the fact that there can be no excuses. 

With expensive foreign signings who have never played in the league, they can always end up not adapting to the league, the country etc.

This lad, it was hard for the club not to know everything about him. This signing sums up everything that is fucked about this club.

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 16 Jan 2026, 09:32
by fraser
violator wrote: 16 Jan 2026, 08:33 Didn't David Kelly have one leg longer than the other, which might explain his utter shitness
Todibo also has this. 

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 16 Jan 2026, 09:27
by Eerie Decent
If we're talking about any player in any position at any cost, Roberto is the worst player we have ever had at the club.

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 16 Jan 2026, 08:33
by violator
Didn't David Kelly have one leg longer than the other, which might explain his utter shitness

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 16 Jan 2026, 08:25
by Manuel
onsideman wrote: 16 Jan 2026, 07:50
twoleftfeet wrote: 12 Jan 2026, 20:05
Pub Bigot" wrote: 12 Jan 2026, 20:01 Kilman is the worse player I’ve seen in a West Ham shirt. 
You clearly haven’t watched much of us then, within a few seconds I could name David Kelly, Allen McKnight and John Radford and that’s before I’d even thought about it 😆
If he'd added 'pound for pound' it ends the thread
Yes, but what makes Kilman better than Radford or David Kelly? Fucked if I know.

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 16 Jan 2026, 07:50
by onsideman
twoleftfeet wrote: 12 Jan 2026, 20:05
Pub Bigot" wrote: 12 Jan 2026, 20:01 Kilman is the worse player I’ve seen in a West Ham shirt. 
You clearly haven’t watched much of us then, within a few seconds I could name David Kelly, Allen McKnight and John Radford and that’s before I’d even thought about it 😆
If he'd added 'pound for pound' it ends the thread

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 16 Jan 2026, 07:14
by southbankbornnbred
Watched almost every game that McKnight and Kelly played for us.

They we’re both terrible - especially McKnight (moved off his line about as well as Captain Tom). Kelly had a few decent games for us, but was never good enough and seemed to hate any contact - which was bizarre for a striker in the 80s/90s. Looked out of his depth playing in front of fans used to Cottee etc.

Kilman is definitely as bad as both of them. He’s a proper ringer. Can’t run, tackle, head or mark. Quite genuinely, I don’t know how he became a premier league footballer. Said not long after we signed him that he’ll never play for a team that finishes in the top ten. He’s a walking relegation battle. Gary Breen.

Fuck knows who “scouted” him other than Lopetegui: a man who proved the point that even Spain produces some Steve McClarens.

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 16 Jan 2026, 00:26
by Monsieur merde de cheval
twoleftfeet wrote: 12 Jan 2026, 20:05
Pub Bigot" wrote: 12 Jan 2026, 20:01 Kilman is the worse player I’ve seen in a West Ham shirt. 
You clearly haven’t watched much of us then, within a few seconds I could name David Kelly, Allen McKnight and John Radford and that’s before I’d even thought about it 😆
..The Mcknightmare is laughable now , not at the time ...the mullet cսnt.
Kelly was a fanny who pranced around like a girl and he couldn't handle playing for us.
Radford ..fuckin ell...You've out old fuckered me there like. 

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 16 Jan 2026, 00:06
by Monsieur merde de cheval
I haven't looked back on this thread but only one name springs to mind every time .
TOMMY MC'QUEEN 
bless him

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 12 Jan 2026, 20:36
by twoleftfeet
Pub Bigot" wrote: 12 Jan 2026, 20:06
twoleftfeet wrote: 12 Jan 2026, 20:05
Pub Bigot" wrote: 12 Jan 2026, 20:01 Kilman is the worse player I’ve seen in a West Ham shirt. 
You clearly haven’t watched much of us then, within a few seconds I could name David Kelly, Allen McKnight and John Radford and that’s before I’d even thought about it 😆
Before my time, Feet, so I’ll take your word for it. 
Now I feel old 😆. He is definitely up there in modern times though 👍

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 12 Jan 2026, 20:06
by Pub Bigot
twoleftfeet wrote: 12 Jan 2026, 20:05
Pub Bigot" wrote: 12 Jan 2026, 20:01 Kilman is the worse player I’ve seen in a West Ham shirt. 
You clearly haven’t watched much of us then, within a few seconds I could name David Kelly, Allen McKnight and John Radford and that’s before I’d even thought about it 😆
Before my time, Feet, so I’ll take your word for it. 

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 12 Jan 2026, 20:05
by twoleftfeet
Pub Bigot" wrote: 12 Jan 2026, 20:01 Kilman is the worse player I’ve seen in a West Ham shirt. 
You clearly haven’t watched much of us then, within a few seconds I could name David Kelly, Allen McKnight and John Radford and that’s before I’d even thought about it 😆

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 12 Jan 2026, 20:01
by Pub Bigot
Kilman is the worse player I’ve seen in a West Ham shirt. 

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 12 Jan 2026, 19:51
by Jasnik
I did notice in the QPR game that Tolibo was playing as a wing back at one point AWB dropped into CB defence before he got subbed. 

Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

Posted: 12 Jan 2026, 19:31
by Mad Dog
Honky.  Well perhaps he shouldnt be a useles gutless coward then.

If he were a good player this thread wouldn't exist