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Mex Martillo" wrote: ↑16 Jan 2026, 18:38

Sydney_Iron wrote: ↑16 Jan 2026, 01:09

fraser wrote: ↑15 Jan 2026, 20:54

 

Its nothing new from Australia! Nor is it only Aussies that this new UK rule affects, its anyone who takes dual citizenship of any country or are born to UK nationals.

it’s been this way basically since Australian citizenship formally came into being and broke off from the UK, and it’s been implemented for decades now. Since about 2003/4 and airline passengers have been subject to Advance Passenger Processing, which is the system where an airline checking you in sends your passport details to Canberra and needs an “OK TO BOARD” response before they can complete your check in. If an Australian Citizen presents their other passport, they can’t check in.

And as far as im aware its not as anal as the UK have made it, all Australia says is you need to use an Australian passport if you are a Citizen to enter, renounce that and you can enter on any other passport as long as you have a Visa.

This new rule from the UK also affects the kids of UK nationals born overseas, as technically the UK says they are British Nationals as well!!! Quite how this is going to work is mind boggling but essentially someone could arrive at Heathrow on a non British passport (or an airport to fly to the UK) and be denied entry as they had a British parent and so can only enter on a UK passport, how fucked up is that???

Form MN1: guidance (accessible version) - GOV.UK

"A child born abroad to a parent who is British otherwise than by descent will automatically be British by descent"

Unless this is a future thing that is not correct, my daughter has UK and Portuguese passport and goes in and out on anyone and has no problems. I don't see why they don't let you get a visa on your Oz passport. But if they did I'll bet they would charge the same as a new UK passport! Ha ha, cunts.

Sydney_Iron wrote: ↑16 Jan 2026, 01:09

fraser wrote: ↑15 Jan 2026, 20:54

Yes you need a visa and of course you can't get a visa if you're a British citizen. Same as I can't go back to Australia without an Aussie passport.. Australia did this first. 

Its nothing new from Australia! Nor is it only Aussies that this new UK rule affects, its anyone who takes dual citizenship of any country or are born to UK nationals.

it’s been this way basically since Australian citizenship formally came into being and broke off from the UK, and it’s been implemented for decades now. Since about 2003/4 and airline passengers have been subject to Advance Passenger Processing, which is the system where an airline checking you in sends your passport details to Canberra and needs an “OK TO BOARD” response before they can complete your check in. If an Australian Citizen presents their other passport, they can’t check in.

And as far as im aware its not as anal as the UK have made it, all Australia says is you need to use an Australian passport if you are a Citizen to enter, renounce that and you can enter on any other passport as long as you have a Visa.

This new rule from the UK also affects the kids of UK nationals born overseas, as technically the UK says they are British Nationals as well!!! Quite how this is going to work is mind boggling but essentially someone could arrive at Heathrow on a non British passport (or an airport to fly to the UK) and be denied entry as they had a British parent and so can only enter on a UK passport, how fucked up is that???

Form MN1: guidance (accessible version) - GOV.UK

"A child born abroad to a parent who is British otherwise than by descent will automatically be British by descent"

nychammer wrote: ↑16 Jan 2026, 12:23 I live in the US as a dual citizen. I do have two passports and no issue with that, but does this mwan that i could not visit the UK as a US citizen on my US passport. What would happen if i tried it then? would i be denied entry?

Sydney_Iron wrote: ↑16 Jan 2026, 09:49

fraser wrote: ↑16 Jan 2026, 09:00

Maybe it just seems normal to me because I could never enter Australia on my UK passport. Neither can Sydney but I don't see him saying that's ridiculous 

Also when we came in with our kids on their Aussie passport we were told they could only stay as long as any Aussie entering the country so maybe that is why as in if someone enters on a foreign passport they only have the rights of a foreigner... But as I said having been used to it entering Australia it just seems normal. 

Well TBH until today i didn't realise it was the other way around, and has been for some time, and i posted such, since 2004 apparently but yeah think its equally ridicules but at least the Aussies would let you come in on a UK passport if you relinquish your Australian citizenship! The UK would still require me to get a certificate of entitlement (COE) attached to my Aussie passport and at nearly 500 Quid a pop and it would need updating every time i needed a new passport (10 years).

Be several reasons mooted one is that its part of a crackdown on migration from commonwealth countries, been a lot of abuse of the dual citizenship rules out of some countries (sub-continent!!) and although none or very little is from Aus/NZ and Canada the rules have to apply to ALL commonwealth nations, other reasons to do with national security but seems a stretch to be targeting only those born in the UK??? so fucks know if any of those are the "official" reason?

Anyway, it is what it is, will just get a UK passport and forget about it, as posted earlier the thread was more to let others know rather than get into debates about it all. 

You'll be more pissed off when your Aussie passport expires and you can't get back into oz on your cheaper UK passport and have to fork out for your expensive Aussie one..  

fraser wrote: ↑16 Jan 2026, 09:00

Maybe it just seems normal to me because I could never enter Australia on my UK passport. Neither can Sydney but I don't see him saying that's ridiculous 

Also when we came in with our kids on their Aussie passport we were told they could only stay as long as any Aussie entering the country so maybe that is why as in if someone enters on a foreign passport they only have the rights of a foreigner... But as I said having been used to it entering Australia it just seems normal. 

Well TBH until today i didn't realise it was the other way around, and has been for some time, and i posted such, since 2004 apparently but yeah think its equally ridicules but at least the Aussies would let you come in on a UK passport if you relinquish your Australian citizenship! The UK would still require me to get a certificate of entitlement (COE) attached to my Aussie passport and at nearly 500 Quid a pop and it would need updating every time i needed a new passport (10 years).

Be several reasons mooted one is that its part of a crackdown on migration from commonwealth countries, been a lot of abuse of the dual citizenship rules out of some countries (sub-continent!!) and although none or very little is from Aus/NZ and Canada the rules have to apply to ALL commonwealth nations, other reasons to do with national security but seems a stretch to be targeting only those born in the UK??? so fucks know if any of those are the "official" reason?

Anyway, it is what it is, will just get a UK passport and forget about it, as posted earlier the thread was more to let others know rather than get into debates about it all. 

fraser wrote: ↑16 Jan 2026, 09:20

Manuel wrote: ↑16 Jan 2026, 09:09

fraser wrote: ↑16 Jan 2026, 09:00

Maybe it just seems normal to me because I could never enter Australia on my UK passport. Neither can Sydney but I don't see him saying that's ridiculous 

Also when we came in with our kids on their Aussie passport we were told they could only stay as long as any Aussie entering the country so maybe that is why as in if someone enters on a foreign passport they only have the rights of a foreigner... But as I said having been used to it entering Australia it just seems normal. 

But you or Sydney weren't born in Australia.

Maybe the point you make is why they have done it, but for me if say a Spaniard can enter the UK on a Spanish passport, but a British national using a Spanish passport can't enter, it just seems, yea ridiculous. All IMO of course

But we're both Australian citizens and an Australian that is born there and has dual citizenship also can't enter Australia on their foreign passport so it is exactly the same. 

But if I entered on an Australian passport and I was working I would be doing so illegally and I presume wouldn't have the same NHS rights.. Maybe that is why? 

Manuel wrote: ↑16 Jan 2026, 09:09

fraser wrote: ↑16 Jan 2026, 09:00

Manuel wrote: ↑16 Jan 2026, 08:35

Out of interest, as none of this effects me, if you don't think it's ridiculous I would then assume you think it's fine, but why? For me, if a British national born in the UK cannot enter the UK on an alternative (valid) passport then to me that is ridiculous. 

Any wisdom as to why this has happened?

Maybe it just seems normal to me because I could never enter Australia on my UK passport. Neither can Sydney but I don't see him saying that's ridiculous 

Also when we came in with our kids on their Aussie passport we were told they could only stay as long as any Aussie entering the country so maybe that is why as in if someone enters on a foreign passport they only have the rights of a foreigner... But as I said having been used to it entering Australia it just seems normal. 

But you or Sydney weren't born in Australia.

Maybe the point you make is why they have done it, but for me if say a Spaniard can enter the UK on a Spanish passport, but a British national using a Spanish passport can't enter, it just seems, yea ridiculous. All IMO of course

fraser wrote: ↑16 Jan 2026, 09:00

Manuel wrote: ↑16 Jan 2026, 08:35

I don't think it's ridiculous at all the same as I don't think it is to enter Australia I need one, lots of advantages to dual nationality and all you have to do is fill in some forms and send certified photos, you could have done that instead of filling out this thread  

Out of interest, as none of this effects me, if you don't think it's ridiculous I would then assume you think it's fine, but why? For me, if a British national born in the UK cannot enter the UK on an alternative (valid) passport then to me that is ridiculous. 

Any wisdom as to why this has happened?

Maybe it just seems normal to me because I could never enter Australia on my UK passport. Neither can Sydney but I don't see him saying that's ridiculous 

Also when we came in with our kids on their Aussie passport we were told they could only stay as long as any Aussie entering the country so maybe that is why as in if someone enters on a foreign passport they only have the rights of a foreigner... But as I said having been used to it entering Australia it just seems normal. 

But you or Sydney weren't born in Australia.

Maybe the point you make is why they have done it, but for me if say a Spaniard can enter the UK on a Spanish passport, but a British national using a Spanish passport can't enter, it just seems, yea ridiculous. All IMO of course

Manuel wrote: ↑16 Jan 2026, 08:35

I don't think it's ridiculous at all the same as I don't think it is to enter Australia I need one, lots of advantages to dual nationality and all you have to do is fill in some forms and send certified photos, you could have done that instead of filling out this thread  

Out of interest, as none of this effects me, if you don't think it's ridiculous I would then assume you think it's fine, but why? For me, if a British national born in the UK cannot enter the UK on an alternative (valid) passport then to me that is ridiculous. 

Any wisdom as to why this has happened?

I don't think it's ridiculous at all the same as I don't think it is to enter Australia I need one, lots of advantages to dual nationality and all you have to do is fill in some forms and send certified photos, you could have done that instead of filling out this thread  

Sydney_Iron wrote: ↑16 Jan 2026, 02:15 Manuel, i agree it's not that hard to fix, just get a British passport if you need to visit the UK, i just originally posted the thread to let others know this new rule change, until my sister told me i was unaware! and its only weeks away.

Added stuff since as people either just make random and "fishing" like comments or to add to what's others have said.

Does seem stupid in some ways though on the one hand i can't enter the UK unless i use a UK passport as they know im a Brit by birth, but to get a new UK passport i have to prove that!!! but then again we all have to do that anyways, so yeah all a bit meh.

Sydney_Iron wrote: ↑16 Jan 2026, 01:09

fraser wrote: ↑15 Jan 2026, 20:54

This new rule from the UK also affects the kids of UK nationals born overseas, as technically the UK says they are British Nationals as well!!! Quite how this is going to work is mind boggling but essentially someone could arrive at Heathrow on a non British passport (or an airport to fly to the UK) and be denied entry as they had a British parent and so can only enter on a UK passport, how fucked up is that???

Form MN1: guidance (accessible version) - GOV.UK

"A child born abroad to a parent who is British otherwise than by descent will automatically be British by descent"

fraser wrote: ↑15 Jan 2026, 20:54

Yes you need a visa and of course you can't get a visa if you're a British citizen. Same as I can't go back to Australia without an Aussie passport.. Australia did this first. 

Mex Martillo" wrote: ↑15 Jan 2026, 20:48 Seems fair enough if the other passport does not give you the right to enter the UK? Is that the case?

Have to say, even though I left the UK 28 years ago, I have no interest in taking another nationality. The only thing that has fucked me off is that after 15 years I lost my voting rights, which meant I could not vote in Brexit. Good old democracy.

Niblets wrote: ↑15 Jan 2026, 17:28

So you simply need to pay £16 and fill out a form online?

Jesus wept. Thank fuck you're not one of us anymore if that's too difficult for you.

Jesus wept indeed Niblett's son! 

You obviously just skimmed it or jumped to conclusions or are just a bit dim?

If you're an Australian it is just that simple! BUT, if your a naturalised (emigrated here) Australian who was BORN in the UK, you can only enter the UK if you use a British passport, seeing as many who emigrate take Australian citizenship, we also have Australian passports now as its been just as easy to enter the UK with up until now!

Some bureaucratic prick in the UK has for whatever reason decided if you were born in the UK you can only come back using a British passport!

I simply posted this as i expect we have expats on the board who may not be aware of the changes upcoming (we did), but yes applying for a UK passport isnt difficult, but banning your own citizens from coming back to visit family/holiday/business does seem a tad ridiculous to me, especially as any other Australian is not affected, only British and Irish born.

Do read stuff before going off half cocked please!

Sydney_Iron wrote: ↑14 Jan 2026, 07:35 Aust Govt Smartraveller has today updated with:Australian-British or Australian-Irish dual citizens must enter the UK on their British or Irish passports, or through a certificate of entitlement in another valid passport. These dual citizens are unable to obtain an ETA or visa to enter the UK. Dual citizens may not be able to board a flight to the UK without a valid document (see ‘Travel’). The UK government has advised these requirements will be strictly enforced from 25 February

.https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/destin ... ed-kingdom

Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑14 Jan 2026, 23:07

Gank wrote: ↑14 Jan 2026, 17:58 Easy to call people names when you're not able to come and face them.

An anonymous username on a trivial website gets "called names" by another equally anonymous user on the same trivial web site?

What sort of insecure, lily-livered, narcissistic cսnt is going to be offended by that?

Gank wrote: ↑14 Jan 2026, 17:58 Easy to call people names when you're not able to come and face them.