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goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 21:08

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 20:47

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 20:26

You’re getting your government departments confused son.

btw, we’re not talking about one source here. Multiple different sources said the same things.

So they are not using the Gov’t job numbers in their algorithims? Are you sure? Where do they get their job numbers from then? I mean you can’t ignore jobs in any forecast.

And do they all have exactly the same number?

Keep reaching son. 
Like I said before, to cover the reduction of tax revenues you need growth way ahead of anything ever recorded.
£300bn on the national debt, every year.


Have a sit down and think that one through.

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 20:47

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 20:26

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 20:22

Yeah we’ve seen just how good they are. They can’t even get close to the job numbers. That’s why Trump fired the woman in charge.

You really are stupid’

You’re getting your government departments confused son.

btw, we’re not talking about one source here. Multiple different sources said the same things.

So they are not using the Gov’t job numbers in their algorithims? Are you sure? Where do they get their job numbers from then? I mean you can’t ignore jobs in any forecast.

And do they all have exactly the same number?

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 20:20 Better late than never. For what it’s worth it was a cunty thing to say no doubt. Stupid too, nothing to be gained from it, no matter how it was meant.

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 20:26

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 20:22

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 20:17

Hahaha you’re so dense.
i wonder if they count tariff revenue  

We’re talking about the best economists around.

they predict it using a model with huge numbers of data points used to model the impact. This is literally their job, it’s not a few fellas with an excel and some post it notes

Yeah we’ve seen just how good they are. They can’t even get close to the job numbers. That’s why Trump fired the woman in charge.

You really are stupid’

You’re getting your government departments confused son.

btw, we’re not talking about one source here. Multiple different sources said the same things.

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 20:22

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 20:17

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 20:13

Possibly. We’ll find out exactly what data they put in to their algorithm. See how thorough they were. A ton of variables no doubt. I wonder if they count Tarrif revenue in their numbers? Although fuck knows how you’d predict that.

Hahaha you’re so dense.
i wonder if they count tariff revenue  

We’re talking about the best economists around.

they predict it using a model with huge numbers of data points used to model the impact. This is literally their job, it’s not a few fellas with an excel and some post it notes

Yeah we’ve seen just how good they are. They can’t even get close to the job numbers. That’s why Trump fired the woman in charge.

You really are stupid’

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 20:17

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 20:13

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 19:32

They’re not £300bn off.

Possibly. We’ll find out exactly what data they put in to their algorithm. See how thorough they were. A ton of variables no doubt. I wonder if they count Tarrif revenue in their numbers? Although fuck knows how you’d predict that.

Hahaha you’re so dense.
i wonder if they count tariff revenue  

We’re talking about the best economists around.

they predict it using a model with huge numbers of data points used to model the impact. This is literally their job, it’s not a few fellas with an excel and some post it notes

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 20:13

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 19:32

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 19:30

out of curiosity how accurate do you think these models are? 
And are they the same models that were telling you we were heading for Stagflation ?

They’re not £300bn off.

Possibly. We’ll find out exactly what data they put in to their algorithm. See how thorough they were. A ton of variables no doubt. I wonder if they count Tarrif revenue in their numbers? Although fuck knows how you’d predict that.

Hahaha you’re so dense.
i wonder if they count tariff revenue  

We’re talking about the best economists around.

they predict it using a model with huge numbers of data points used to model the impact. This is literally their job, it’s not a few fellas with an excel and some post it notes

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 19:32

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 19:30

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:58

You think it’s an ‘opinion’???  

it’s the output of the most advanced technical economic models. 

out of curiosity how accurate do you think these models are? 
And are they the same models that were telling you we were heading for Stagflation ?

They’re not £300bn off.

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 19:30

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:58

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:54

How has it been proven? It’s January ffs! This is their opinion, forecasts. Just like Stagflation and Inflation and all the others. Let’s see how much growth we get first and how much tax revenues that brings. You really have no idea. Your lack of understanding is unreal!

You think it’s an ‘opinion’???  

it’s the output of the most advanced technical economic models. 

out of curiosity how accurate do you think these models are? 
And are they the same models that were telling you we were heading for Stagflation ?

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:58

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:54

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:38

It’s been proven that the cost of the growth projected is far outweighed by the loss of tax revenue. $300 odd billion every year.
You were pointed to multiple well respected sources and your own congressional committee all saying the same thing.

you can shout and avoid and throw insults around but these people know what they’re talking about.

How has it been proven? It’s January ffs! This is their opinion, forecasts. Just like Stagflation and Inflation and all the others. Let’s see how much growth we get first and how much tax revenues that brings. You really have no idea. Your lack of understanding is unreal!

You think it’s an ‘opinion’???  

it’s the output of the most advanced technical economic models. 

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:54

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:38

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:32

Not true, it’s been proven less tax means more consumer spending creating more GDP a vibrant economy and stronger markets which is good for your retirement accounts. Creates the wealth mindset effect, people fell better about spending. 

Once again you show your simpleton understanding of economics.

Pick up a book you cսnt!

It’s been proven that the cost of the growth projected is far outweighed by the loss of tax revenue. $300 odd billion every year.
You were pointed to multiple well respected sources and your own congressional committee all saying the same thing.

you can shout and avoid and throw insults around but these people know what they’re talking about.

How has it been proven? It’s January ffs! This is their opinion, forecasts. Just like Stagflation and Inflation and all the others. Let’s see how much growth we get first and how much tax revenues that brings. You really have no idea. Your lack of understanding is unreal!

You think it’s an ‘opinion’???  

it’s the output of the most advanced technical economic models. 

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:51

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:33

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:29

 

What’s interesting about the chart is if you select the 5 yr chart you’ll see that Interest rates took off in 2022, While Biden was in office, right around the time he announced his $5 trillion spending bill whilst telling us we had supply chain issues. 

 

And yet Trump has delivered more debt at a faster rate. 

And yet Interest rates are down and so is inflation, so is crime and drug death.

You know what’s up, GDP. As is Consumer sentiment and wage growth.

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:38

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:32

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:27

But the debt grows at record levels and will grow even faster when the tax cuts land.
Good luck with that.

More debt than Biden, faster acceleration of debt and lower growth. 

Not true, it’s been proven less tax means more consumer spending creating more GDP a vibrant economy and stronger markets which is good for your retirement accounts. Creates the wealth mindset effect, people fell better about spending. 

Once again you show your simpleton understanding of economics.

Pick up a book you cսnt!

It’s been proven that the cost of the growth projected is far outweighed by the loss of tax revenue. $300 odd billion every year.
You were pointed to multiple well respected sources and your own congressional committee all saying the same thing.

you can shout and avoid and throw insults around but these people know what they’re talking about.

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:33

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:29

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:23

 

I never said our debt was nothing, I agree with Trump we need lower interest rates so servicing the debt is not so expensive. Rates have been dropping since Trump took office. See the 30 year fixed mortgage rate for proof or the 10 yr T-Bill, 

Here’s the 1 year chart for proof.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DGS10

 

What’s interesting about the chart is if you select the 5 yr chart you’ll see that Interest rates took off in 2022, While Biden was in office, right around the time he announced his $5 trillion spending bill whilst telling us we had supply chain issues. 

 

And yet Trump has delivered more debt at a faster rate. 

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:32

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:27

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:23

 

I never said our debt was nothing, I agree with Trump we need lower interest rates so servicing the debt is not so expensive. Rates have been dropping since Trump took office. See the 30 year fixed mortgage rate for proof or the 10 yr T-Bill, 

Here’s the 1 year chart for proof.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DGS10

But the debt grows at record levels and will grow even faster when the tax cuts land.
Good luck with that.

More debt than Biden, faster acceleration of debt and lower growth. 

Not true, it’s been proven less tax means more consumer spending creating more GDP a vibrant economy and stronger markets which is good for your retirement accounts. Creates the wealth mindset effect, people fell better about spending. 

Once again you show your simpleton understanding of economics.

Pick up a book you cսnt!

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:29

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:23

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:16

 

So when you posted about GDP data why bother? It’s a nothing burger right? Just happens to be a slower growth than Biden. 
Did your GCSE teach you that GDP growth was nothing but deregulation was really important? No wonder you failed.

And that record accumulation of debt is nothing as well right?

Biden was a corpse in office but that corpse delivered more growth than your orange abuser  

 

I never said our debt was nothing, I agree with Trump we need lower interest rates so servicing the debt is not so expensive. Rates have been dropping since Trump took office. See the 30 year fixed mortgage rate for proof or the 10 yr T-Bill, 

Here’s the 1 year chart for proof.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DGS10

 

What’s interesting about the chart is if you select the 5 yr chart you’ll see that Interest rates took off in 2022, While Biden was in office, right around the time he announced his $5 trillion spending bill whilst telling us we had supply chain issues. 

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:27

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:23

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:16

 

So when you posted about GDP data why bother? It’s a nothing burger right? Just happens to be a slower growth than Biden. 
Did your GCSE teach you that GDP growth was nothing but deregulation was really important? No wonder you failed.

And that record accumulation of debt is nothing as well right?

Biden was a corpse in office but that corpse delivered more growth than your orange abuser  

 

I never said our debt was nothing, I agree with Trump we need lower interest rates so servicing the debt is not so expensive. Rates have been dropping since Trump took office. See the 30 year fixed mortgage rate for proof or the 10 yr T-Bill, 

Here’s the 1 year chart for proof.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DGS10

But the debt grows at record levels and will grow even faster when the tax cuts land.
Good luck with that.

More debt than Biden, faster acceleration of debt and lower growth. 

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:23

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:16

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:08

What does it matter, the economy is now picking up steam, it’s what’s in front of us what counts you retard.
Markets are priced on what lies ahead. Tax cuts kick this year, Deregulation is happening at a fast clip, new technology, Trillions in new investment. Nobody cares about your silly little nothingburger negative data point. It’s not relevant! 

 

So when you posted about GDP data why bother? It’s a nothing burger right? Just happens to be a slower growth than Biden. 
Did your GCSE teach you that GDP growth was nothing but deregulation was really important? No wonder you failed.

And that record accumulation of debt is nothing as well right?

Biden was a corpse in office but that corpse delivered more growth than your orange abuser  

 

I never said our debt was nothing, I agree with Trump we need lower interest rates so servicing the debt is not so expensive. Rates have been dropping since Trump took office. See the 30 year fixed mortgage rate for proof or the 10 yr T-Bill, 

Here’s the 1 year chart for proof.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DGS10

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:23

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:16

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:08

What does it matter, the economy is now picking up steam, it’s what’s in front of us what counts you retard.
Markets are priced on what lies ahead. Tax cuts kick this year, Deregulation is happening at a fast clip, new technology, Trillions in new investment. Nobody cares about your silly little nothingburger negative data point. It’s not relevant! 

 

So when you posted about GDP data why bother? It’s a nothing burger right? Just happens to be a slower growth than Biden. 
Did your GCSE teach you that GDP growth was nothing but deregulation was really important? No wonder you failed.

And that record accumulation of debt is nothing as well right?

Biden was a corpse in office but that corpse delivered more growth than your orange abuser  

 

I never said our debt was nothing, I agree with Trump we need lower interest rates so servicing the debt is not so expensive. Rates have been dropping since Trump took office. See the 30 year fixed mortgage rate for proof or the 10 yr T-Bill, 

Here’s the 1 year chart for proof.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DGS10

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:16

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:08

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 15:59

Simple way to prove that big boy.
whats the full year 2025 GDP?

What does it matter, the economy is now picking up steam, it’s what’s in front of us what counts you retard.
Markets are priced on what lies ahead. Tax cuts kick this year, Deregulation is happening at a fast clip, new technology, Trillions in new investment. Nobody cares about your silly little nothingburger negative data point. It’s not relevant! 

 

So when you posted about GDP data why bother? It’s a nothing burger right? Just happens to be a slower growth than Biden. 
Did your GCSE teach you that GDP growth was nothing but deregulation was really important? No wonder you failed.

And that record accumulation of debt is nothing as well right?

Biden was a corpse in office but that corpse delivered more growth than your orange abuser  

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:13

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 15:58 5% GDP  
​
​​​ no wonder you failed that GCSE

That’s the Atlanta Fed forecast, they forecast 5.4- 5.6%. They have the reputation of having the best model for this. Those that know this follow it, markets and investors pay attention to this. It matters a whole lot more than your silly backward looking data points.

The mere fact that you don’t understand that it’s what’s in front of us that counts says it all.

Once again you are proving just how little you understand economics and markets.

It’s below GCSE grade. Did you graduate high school?

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 16:08

goose wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 15:59

Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jan 2026, 15:56

What a load of bollocks!

Simple way to prove that big boy.
whats the full year 2025 GDP?

What does it matter, the economy is now picking up steam, it’s what’s in front of us what counts you retard.
Markets are priced on what lies ahead. Tax cuts kick this year, Deregulation is happening at a fast clip, new technology, Trillions in new investment. Nobody cares about your silly little nothingburger negative data point. It’s not relevant! 

So when you posted about GDP data why bother? It’s a nothing burger right? Just happens to be a slower growth than Biden. 
Did your GCSE teach you that GDP growth was nothing but deregulation was really important? No wonder you failed.

And that record accumulation of debt is nothing as well right?

Biden was a corpse in office but that corpse delivered more growth than your orange abuser