The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Nurse Ratched]

("I don't understand. Every time I mention Farage I call him a Nazi. Why are people still going to vote for him when I have expressly - at every opportunity - called him a Nazi? Why isn't this working? I know - I should keep on calling Nigel Farage a Nazi")

[Eerie Decent]

Farage is a Nazi

 

 

You silly, pathetic cսnt.

This sort of made up bollocks is exactly why he is going to win the next election by landslide. Do you not understand that these childish fake orchestrated accusations are convincing people even more that a change is needed?

In fact, carry on with it.

[Fauxstralian]

I am slightly bemused about the acceptance of Nigel as an 18yo (and probably older… what if anything changed his mind?)
I can imagine if Starmer was accused of the same it wouldn’t be accepted so calmly
Reminds me a bit of Trump supporters
As Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose a vote
Doing it in Minnesota now for real

[One Sunny Day]

Trying to work out how getting Braverman is a good thing for Reform. Reform supporters are well known for their top priority, by far, to be stopping the boats and getting rid of immigrants. Remind me again about how Braverman did on that score while she was Home Secretary? More small boat crossings than ever and spunked millions of tax payers pounds on a failed bid to swap a few asylum seekers that had shown up in the UK with some Rwandans.

[Nurse Ratched]

Wes Streeting: student politics to public sector wonk to Labour mp. 

Versus

Richard Tice: very successful multi millionaire businessman before entering politics, was a leading driver in the Brexit movement (the biggest exercise in democracy in our generation) 

You silly sausage. 

The rest of your comment is depressingly childish twaddle about Nazis. Can you do better?

[Mike Oxsaw]

No list (yet) if Labour ministers/MPs doing such a good job that they deserve re-electing?

[Fauxstralian]

Farage is a Nazi & Tice lives under Sharia law by choice 
As poor as Starmer has been being not a Nazi puts him ahead 
Streeting I understand lives in England so I put him ahead of Tice
As for Truss I think any government minister who has died recently or sustained a brain injury has her covered

[Eerie Decent]

And you think that parade of clowns can run the country?
Which ‘real world’ do YOU live in?
I know it’s a wet dream for you Essex Thatcherites but how exactly do you expect Nigel, Tice, Truss & a bunch of teenage councillors to run a country without driving it into a ditch

 

 

 

I'm not cock-a-hoop about them, however, the left-centrist Tories and the left-centrist Labourites have completely and utterly ruined the country, dating back to the Evil Blair reign. Do I think Reform are the complete answer? No. If I had my way, Rupert Lowe would run the country, but it's not going to happen.

We need a change, and as it stands, Reform are now the only show in town. People in the real world have had enough, the destruction of the country that has happened since 1997 has finally awoken the sort of people that wouldn't normally bother to vote.

Regardless of your pathetic little digs, it's happening. Get yourself back to Australia if you're that bothered, you won't be missed.

[Fauxstralian]

Nurse
Given a choice of Starmer, a Nazi or a continuation of Tory incompetence under Sunak (following Cameron May Johnson Truss) I did vote for my Labour candidate
I take it you voted for Reform or more of the Tories
Please advise
Dont be shy

Starmer has been atrocious which is why I was hoping he would be replaced asap
That will happen after the upcoming May debacle I suspect 

[One Sunny Day]

Per Trillion dollars in GDP generates approx &165-190 Billion dependant on who’s algorithm you choose to believe. Since 2020 US GDP has grown from $20 Trillion to $30 Trillion. Even with your speculative numbers that would more than pay for Trumps tax cuts and then some.

But do Carry on telling everyone just how much GDP the Us will generate over the next 5 years. We’re all ears.

Per Grok AI.

The amount of tax revenue generated per $1 trillion in GDP depends on the tax-to-GDP ratio (also called the revenue-to-GDP ratio), which varies significantly by country, what level of government is included (federal/national only vs. all levels including state/local), and the specific year (due to economic conditions, policy changes, etc.).

This ratio represents the percentage of GDP collected as tax revenue. Therefore:

- Tax revenue per $1 trillion GDP = (tax-to-GDP ratio as a decimal) × $1 trillion.

### Key Examples (Based on Recent Data)
- United States (most common context for this question in USD terms):
  - Total tax revenue (federal + state + local): Typically around 25–27% of GDP in recent years.
    - OECD data for 2023: 25.2% total tax-to-GDP ratio.
    - Earlier/recent estimates (2021–2024 period): Often cited around 27% (Tax Policy Center) or similar.
    - → This means roughly $250–270 billion in total tax revenue per $1 trillion of GDP.
  - Federal revenue only (what people often mean by "tax revenue" in US discussions): Usually 16–19% of GDP.
    - Recent figures: Around 17% (U.S. Treasury Fiscal Data for FY 2025 estimates).
    - Historical average (last 40+ years): ~17.4% (CBO).
    - In some years like 2022: Closer to 19–20%.
    - → This means roughly $170–190 billion in federal tax revenue per $1 trillion of GDP.

You can go argue with Grok if you like.

Using Grok isn't the nail in the coffin you think it is, it still gets simple things wrong a lot, let alone moderately complex ones 

Nutsin's using the online child porn maker tool to argue for him? Haha! Doesn't surprise me. We already know he loves a rapist and is continually projecting about it.

[Nurse Ratched]

Labour & 14 years of Tory incompetence have been terrible Nurse
But happy to hear how you think Reform with Nigel , Tice, Jenrick , Truss , Zahawi, Braverman etc will be better
The floor is yours
Do you seriously think that crew can run a country?

 

 

It'll be different. It'll shake things up and break the gooey centrist monopoly that Labour and the tories have inflicted on us for 40-odd years. That's enough for me right now. 

Now I'll be happy to hear your thoughts on why Labour (who you very clearly voted for, despite your evasion) are better than Reform would be, and which of their ministers are better than Farage, Tice, etc. Name names.

[Massive Attack]

Labour & 14 years of Tory incompetence have been terrible Nurse
But happy to hear how you think Reform with Nigel , Tice, Jenrick , Truss , Zahawi, Braverman etc will be better
The floor is yours
Do you seriously think that crew can run a country?

Better than the current lot, Lib Dems and Greens, yes.

[Fauxstralian]

Labour & 14 years of Tory incompetence have been terrible Nurse
But happy to hear how you think Reform with Nigel , Tice, Jenrick , Truss , Zahawi, Braverman etc will be better
The floor is yours
Do you seriously think that crew can run a country?

[Fauxstralian]

And you think that parade of clowns can run the country?
Which ‘real world’ do YOU live in?
I know it’s a wet dream for you Essex Thatcherites but how exactly do you expect Nigel, Tice, Truss & a bunch of teenage councillors to run a country without driving it into a ditch

[Eerie Decent]

A Reform government?
I know people are stupid but THAT stupid
Such talent abounds 
Nigel & Liz Truss as ministers 
Tice flying in from Dubai
Rupert Lowe back in the fold to abuse more Reform officials & staff?
Teenager with the Ian Walker haircut running ICE?
The markets will destroy them in a heartbeat 

You don't luve in the real world, so it's no surprise the claptrap you come out with. You're in your 50's, single, childless, work in finance, live in Hampstead. You can afford to live life without a care in the world.

[Mr Anon]

After today’s embarrassment you are in no position to be throwing around insults at anyone on this site. At least you got a basic maths lesson for free.

Per Trillion dollars in GDP generates approx &165-190 Billion dependant on who’s algorithm you choose to believe. Since 2020 US GDP has grown from $20 Trillion to $30 Trillion. Even with your speculative numbers that would more than pay for Trumps tax cuts and then some.

But do Carry on telling everyone just how much GDP the Us will generate over the next 5 years. We’re all ears.

Per Grok AI.

The amount of tax revenue generated per $1 trillion in GDP depends on the tax-to-GDP ratio (also called the revenue-to-GDP ratio), which varies significantly by country, what level of government is included (federal/national only vs. all levels including state/local), and the specific year (due to economic conditions, policy changes, etc.).

This ratio represents the percentage of GDP collected as tax revenue. Therefore:

- Tax revenue per $1 trillion GDP = (tax-to-GDP ratio as a decimal) × $1 trillion.

### Key Examples (Based on Recent Data)
- United States (most common context for this question in USD terms):
  - Total tax revenue (federal + state + local): Typically around 25–27% of GDP in recent years.
    - OECD data for 2023: 25.2% total tax-to-GDP ratio.
    - Earlier/recent estimates (2021–2024 period): Often cited around 27% (Tax Policy Center) or similar.
    - → This means roughly $250–270 billion in total tax revenue per $1 trillion of GDP.
  - Federal revenue only (what people often mean by "tax revenue" in US discussions): Usually 16–19% of GDP.
    - Recent figures: Around 17% (U.S. Treasury Fiscal Data for FY 2025 estimates).
    - Historical average (last 40+ years): ~17.4% (CBO).
    - In some years like 2022: Closer to 19–20%.
    - → This means roughly $170–190 billion in federal tax revenue per $1 trillion of GDP.

You can go argue with Grok if you like.

Using Grok isn't the nail in the coffin you think it is, it still gets simple things wrong a lot, let alone moderately complex ones 

[Nurse Ratched]

A Reform government?
I know people are stupid but THAT stupid
Such talent abounds 
Nigel & Liz Truss as ministers 
Tice flying in from Dubai
Rupert Lowe back in the fold to abuse more Reform officials & staff?
Teenager with the Ian Walker haircut running ICE?
The markets will destroy them in a heartbeat 

Please enlighten us as to the abundant talent on the Labour bench. Or are you one of those minges who like to engage in performative and self-righteous criticism without being brave enough to nail your colours to a mast. That way you're never 'wrong', eh? 

I think we found our shy (very shy) Labour voter. 

("I don't vote for any of them - none of them meet my perfect standards" incoming...) 

[Mike Oxsaw]

A Reform government?
I know people are stupid but THAT stupid
Such talent abounds 
Nigel & Liz Truss as ministers 
Tice flying in from Dubai
Rupert Lowe back in the fold to abuse more Reform officials & staff?
Teenager with the Ian Walker haircut running ICE?
The markets will destroy them in a heartbeat 

What's your proposal for a solution then?

5 more years from the shower of shit currently holding the keys to the country purely because their badge/flag is the "right" colour?

[Tomshardware]

Is Nutsack American or did he choose to move to that redneck retarded country?  Either way it explains a lot about his posts.

[Fauxstralian]

Suella Braverman defects to Reform
More Tory dregs coming out of the closet 

[Fauxstralian]

A Reform government?
I know people are stupid but THAT stupid
Such talent abounds 
Nigel & Liz Truss as ministers 
Tice flying in from Dubai
Rupert Lowe back in the fold to abuse more Reform officials & staff?
Teenager with the Ian Walker haircut running ICE?
The markets will destroy them in a heartbeat 

[Council Scum]

79% of all arrests by British transport police last year for theft were migrants. 

36.6% sexual offences

35.7 percent for violent crime

39.6% for drug offences

Reform will romp home and I'm now Reform supporter. 

We need 300 Rupert Lowes to make a real difference in Parliament.  

[Eerie Decent]

There is now a very strong chance of Reform winning the next general election
 

A very strong chance? Hahaha

It's going to be an absolute landslide, you melon. Plebs like you truly do go about life with your eyes closed.

[Fauxstralian]

Reforms policies (such as they are) seem to involve lots of spending & lots of tax cuts for their mates 
As shit as Labour & the Conservatives are & have been the idea of all the collected brains I listed with their hands on the wheel is laughable if not frightening
Liz Truss in the cabinet with the teenage bozo?
Good luck with that 

[Far Cough UKunt]

The king doesn't know what he's doing, he's too busy talking to plants.

I welcome Reform if it means the end of Keir Stalin and his NKVD goons.