Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?

[camel-with-3-humps]

In light of the horrific display at Wolves, is Max Kilman the worst centre back we've had? There is probably worse, but I can't remember. 

Gary Breen was pretty bad. He didn't make as many mistakes as Kilman, but he was weak -  like a road cone easily bypassed. 

Views?

[El Scorchio]

You can judge a player by the things he does or the things he doesn't do. I'd say Kilman's weaknesses fall into the latter category. You won't see too many complete rickets on the ball (like you might with Mav) but much of that is because he is often hiding and fails to get involvedin challenges. From that perspective, he is an awful centre back.

   

You see him clumsily giving penalties away with awfully timed tackles or missing headers

[El Scorchio]

Does it mention he used to play futsal? Like every fucking commentator every time we play a game and he gets possession of the ball?

'That's that futsal background coming to the fore'

More accurate would be when he's outmuscled, whimps out of a header or anything physical, or whiffs and misses the ball or gives away a penalty:

'That's that futsal background coming to the fore- that's why he's such a shit centre back.'

Serious question though- is there any hope he could be converted to a serviceable defensive midfielder? I imagine he's too slow.

[Takashi Miike]

is that our new third orange kit, because the cսnt has rarely done any of that wearing claret & blue?

[onsideman]

Just a reminder that it hasn't always been the case that everything he does turns to shit!

 

 

Quite telling that in that entire almost 4 minute clip he's seen heading the ball less than a handful of times and not one shows him winning a heading duel

[stubbo-admin]

Just a reminder that it hasn't always been the case that everything he does turns to shit!

[John Drake]

You can judge a player by the things he does or the things he doesn't do. I'd say Kilman's weaknesses fall into the latter category. You won't see too many complete rickets on the ball (like you might with Mav) but much of that is because he is often hiding and fails to get involvedin challenges. From that perspective, he is an awful centre back.

   

[Sydney_Iron]

Apart from watching a few highlights this season (such has been my negativity around all things West Ham coming to a head!!!) i don't remember him as being completely gash? But agree we got our pants pulled down with that fee 

And i expect we will need him in the championship, FWIW, i reckon he is more suited to that kind of league and be more his level, so if we are going to get rid, then the end of next season would be my guess, assuming we get promoted of course!!! 

[eusebiovic]

Mitchell Thomas for me

Built like an out house

Touch of a light house

I dunno...Dale Gordon comes pretty close as well. 750k (ridiculous money at the time) scored on his debut against Coventry and then disappeared for the next 3 years. He went on loan to Millwall and they got even less change out of him!

His nickname was "Electric" 

Turns out it should've been "Portable Hand Cranked Generator from Eastern Bloc"

[Sarge]

Mitchell Thomas for me

Built like an out house

Touch of a light house

[Sir Alf]

Be afraid, very afraid, Max is back against Burnley.

**** shivers **** 

[twoleftfeet]

Here you go Thundercunt.

He already has his own “ we hate “ thread.

You’re welcome fish boy. 

[eusebiovic]

I'm trying to remember that left back of ours signed rom Chelsea who was truly awful. 

Scott Minto 

We got him from Benfica he was at Chelsea before that after impressing at Charlton. We also signed Gary Charles from Benfica that year as well. Both spent most of their time injured but Charles was a full on alcoholic by that stage.

Redknapp exchanging brown envelopes on the night train to Lisbon...

[El Scorchio]

Competition will be fucking fierce for those coveted places. An embarrassment of riches.

[Eerie Decent]

West Ham worst 11 would be an interesting thread, given it's not been done for a few years.

I'll have Kovac as my skipper.

[El Scorchio]

Replied to himself. Bizarre.....

Jon Harley anyway.

[Swiss.]

I'm trying to remember that left back of ours signed rom Chelsea who was truly awful. 

Scott Minto 

[Swiss.]

I'm trying to remember that left back of ours signed rom Chelsea who was truly awful. 

[eusebiovic]

Roberto was another signing which made no sense whatsoever.

Absolutely nobody in Spain rated him as anything more than a back-up keeper and a bang average one at that.

He was already 33 by the time we signed him and hadn't played much more than 150 games in Spain.

It would've been better to sign a younger keeper aged 23-24 from the championship with 150 games under his belt.

Piss poor and the club continues to do it.

[Massive Attack]

He needed more time than just 1 game having only just returned from a lengthy injury. 

After the first 7 League games that same season until he got injured during the Bournemouth game selected for every game we were in 5th place flying as a Team on 12 points alongside Arsenal. How's ya (bad) luck, West Ham..

It's not bad luck is it, its fucking diabolical squad planning to not have competent cover for the keeper 

Yeah, it is just as much as poor recruiting (which wasn't his pick) because it's unusual for a Keeper to get injured and 1 that was so lengthy. He really wanted to keep Adrian which was his preferred choice of back-up Keeper he tried to convince to stay and then the floor opened up to the new installed Director of Football Husillos who sourced Roberto from Espanyol (having worked with him previously at Malaga). So rather than pin the blame on Pellegrini, the blame should land squarely on Husillos shoulders for that shocking pick. 

https://talksport.com/football/551204/w ... r-roberto/

[fraser]

He needed more time than just 1 game having only just returned from a lengthy injury. 

After the first 7 League games that same season until he got injured during the Bournemouth game selected for every game we were in 5th place flying as a Team on 12 points alongside Arsenal. How's ya (bad) luck, West Ham..

It's not bad luck is it, its fucking diabolical squad planning to not have competent cover for the keeper 

[Massive Attack]

He needed more time than just 1 game having only just returned from a lengthy injury. 

After the first 7 League games that same season until he got injured during the Bournemouth game selected for every game we were in 5th place flying as a Team on 12 points alongside Arsenal. How's ya (bad) luck, West Ham..

[Eerie Decent]

"In September they were knocked out from the EFL Cup losing 4-0 to Oxford United of League One.[121] He was sacked by the club on 28 December 2019 after a 2–1 home loss to Leicester City, their fourth straight home defeat, with the club in 17th place and having won only five league games all season"

[Massive Attack]

 

Ultimately finished Pellegrini’s potentially positive tenure for me. The mistake signing him, compounded by his reluctance/stubbornness to dropping him, all saw a horrific run of form. He made David Martin, nice bloke though he is, look like a Premier League keeper rather than the journeyman lower league “training ground” keeper he was. 

Moreso because I recall rumours that he saw Roberto as #1 when he signed rather than back up to Fabianski, albeit he did only came in once Fab got injured I think. 

Fucking hell, what a car crash of a keeper

Myth he wanted Roberto over Fabianski, indeed it was Adrian he wanted to keep all along as back-up to the new main man in goal Fabianski he liked working with the previous season. It was only a freak long term injury that meant the clown replacement (Courtesy of Husillos) Roberto then came in and even after a while of trying to preserve with him did he then turn to Martin successfully in the memorable Chelsea Away match.

https://talksport.com/football/587908/m ... liverpool/

You love defending a Spanish speaking coach, Massive

Not so fond of their Iberian hermanos! 

Definitely should have kept Pellegrini and allowed him the time to get Fabianski back in the Team. He was and still is a quality Manager and in classic West Ham fashion we fuck it up and launch him out the Club along with the bath water. 

[Ron Eff]

I can just remember the big baggy kit!

I suppose we're all guilty of looking at things from more recent memory, but Roberto was truly horrific. That Burnley away game is the worst individual performance you will ever see from a professional footballer.

 

Ultimately finished Pellegrini’s potentially positive tenure for me. The mistake signing him, compounded by his reluctance/stubbornness to dropping him, all saw a horrific run of form. He made David Martin, nice bloke though he is, look like a Premier League keeper rather than the journeyman lower league “training ground” keeper he was. 

Moreso because I recall rumours that he saw Roberto as #1 when he signed rather than back up to Fabianski, albeit he did only came in once Fab got injured I think. 

Fucking hell, what a car crash of a keeper

Myth he wanted Roberto over Fabianski, indeed it was Adrian he wanted to keep all along as back-up to the new main man in goal Fabianski he liked working with the previous season. It was only a freak long term injury that meant the clown replacement (Courtesy of Husillos) Roberto then came in and even after a while of trying to preserve with him did he then turn to Martin successfully in the memorable Chelsea Away match.

https://talksport.com/football/587908/m ... liverpool/

You love defending a Spanish speaking coach, Massive

Not so fond of their Iberian hermanos! 

[Massive Attack]

I can just remember the big baggy kit!

I suppose we're all guilty of looking at things from more recent memory, but Roberto was truly horrific. That Burnley away game is the worst individual performance you will ever see from a professional footballer.

 

Ultimately finished Pellegrini’s potentially positive tenure for me. The mistake signing him, compounded by his reluctance/stubbornness to dropping him, all saw a horrific run of form. He made David Martin, nice bloke though he is, look like a Premier League keeper rather than the journeyman lower league “training ground” keeper he was. 

Moreso because I recall rumours that he saw Roberto as #1 when he signed rather than back up to Fabianski, albeit he did only came in once Fab got injured I think. 

Fucking hell, what a car crash of a keeper

Myth he wanted Roberto over Fabianski, indeed it was Adrian he wanted to keep all along as back-up to the new main man in goal Fabianski he liked working with the previous season. It was only a freak long term injury that meant the clown replacement (Courtesy of Husillos) Roberto then came in and even after a while of trying to preserve with him did he then turn to Martin successfully in the memorable Chelsea Away match.

https://talksport.com/football/587908/m ... liverpool/