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[Come On You Irons]

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[Nutsin]

Well cheers for that Nutsin.

if anything does happen to Britain, I'm sure the US can steam in near the end.

MAIFO

 

 

Oh that old chestnut!

you need to pick a side, grow a spine! 

Trumps trying to put an end to the Ukraine/ Russia conflict, Starmer is talking about war and sending old vets off to fight. Your kids and grandkids will be next.

Hardly much of a choice really, is it.

Just think of all the fun the Immigrants will have with the kids when all of you are fighting the Russians.

[goose]

Data center capex is due to the confidence in the USA winning the AI race due to Trumps big moves on energy. Something China desperately needs.

So I give Trump all the credit for Capex and the huge GDP numbers.
Gotta give credit where it’s due Goose. Who else you gonna give the credit too?

Trump is securing USA dominance and keeping China in its place. Something we all should be thankful for. After all it’s pretty important, don’t you agree?

 

2.6% to 3.0% includes the capital investment.
thats in-line with Q4 in 2022, 2018 and 2019.
hardly a 'golden age'.

 

I think you’ll find the GDP print is 4.4% for the 3rd quarter of 2025. And the Atlanta Fed (considered to be the most accurate) is forecasting a GDP print of a whopping 5.4% for the 4th quarter. We’ll get the actual print here soon so I’ll be sure to let you know what it comes in at. But these GDP numbers are pretty impressive, thanks to Trumps world tour of America first.


I know it hurts!

 

 

That's why i offered to walk you through the numbers. 
The idea of domestic final demand clearly goes over your head.

[WHU(Exeter)]

Well cheers for that Nutsin.

if anything does happen to Britain, I'm sure the US can steam in near the end.

MAIFO

[Nutsin]

Real growth is somewhere between 2.6 to 3.0%. Before you cry 'liberal myth' I can walk you through it if you like.

Closer to 2.2% when you strip out data centre capex.

Data center capex is due to the confidence in the USA winning the AI race due to Trumps big moves on energy. Something China desperately needs.

So I give Trump all the credit for Capex and the huge GDP numbers.
Gotta give credit where it’s due Goose. Who else you gonna give the credit too?

Trump is securing USA dominance and keeping China in its place. Something we all should be thankful for. After all it’s pretty important, don’t you agree?

 

2.6% to 3.0% includes the capital investment.
thats in-line with Q4 in 2022, 2018 and 2019.
hardly a 'golden age'.

 

 

I think you’ll find the GDP print is 4.4% for the 3rd quarter of 2025. And the Atlanta Fed (considered to be the most accurate) is forecasting a GDP print of a whopping 5.4% for the 4th quarter. We’ll get the actual print here soon so I’ll be sure to let you know what it comes in at. But these GDP numbers are pretty impressive, thanks to Trumps world tour of America first.


I know it hurts!

[,]

It is worth reading PM Carney’s speech at the WEF at Davos. The contrast between his and Trump’s rambling, self centred and often incorrect bawblings of yesterday is stark.

Carney’s perception and conclusion about Trump’s stewardship of the USA is corruscating. He made points about the world as it is now that many Americans are uncomfortable with, the likelihood for example that by alienating long term partners the USA would stand alone whereas former allies would of necessity be united and on a different trajectory.

I consider Trump to be a self centred idiot but after recent events and following yesterday’s speech of his I realise that I have grossly underestimated his idiocy.

[goose]

Atlanta Fed is predicting the 4th quarter GDP print to be above 5%……The Golden age is upon us!

Real growth is somewhere between 2.6 to 3.0%. Before you cry 'liberal myth' I can walk you through it if you like.

Closer to 2.2% when you strip out data centre capex.

Data center capex is due to the confidence in the USA winning the AI race due to Trumps big moves on energy. Something China desperately needs.

So I give Trump all the credit for Capex and the huge GDP numbers.
Gotta give credit where it’s due Goose. Who else you gonna give the credit too?

Trump is securing USA dominance and keeping China in its place. Something we all should be thankful for. After all it’s pretty important, don’t you agree?

 

 

2.6% to 3.0% includes the capital investment.
thats in-line with Q4 in 2022, 2018 and 2019.
hardly a 'golden age'.

[Nutsin]

I’m not a “Libtard” Nutsin and I detest pretty much all of what that stands for.

I think the thing that I hate most in my life though is flat track bullies, (that and whoever decided it would be a good idea to sell marmite in plastic tubs).

So I’m happy that as a country, we’ve had the moral backbone to join other countries, in sticking up for Denmark, rather than back down each and every time he has a late night brainstorm.

If he thinks he doesn’t need Western Europe, then fuck him and he can fuck us off at the same time.

I’m sure he’ll find a way of stopping China in their tracks without us. Maybe invade Honduras or something? Take two years doing it and then leave 20 years later, with the same people back in charge?

One of these days you’ll wake up to the big picture and you’ll be thankful you had the big bully in your corner. You just don’t realize how much shit you are in. Don’t worry you will and you’ll realize who the real enemy is.

[Nutsin]

The United States have been carrying the free world?

God help us all then, if a country with more military might than the fucking Taliban start threatening us all.

The United States are lashing out, like most major powers/empires did, when they were in a state of decline.

With the real threat of continued Chinese influence across the globe,  best bet is a united front and allies keeping common purpose, not Trump throwing his toys out the pram and threatening countries like Denmark.

Atlanta Fed is predicting the 4th quarter GDP print to be above 5%……The Golden age is upon us!

Real growth is somewhere between 2.6 to 3.0%. Before you cry 'liberal myth' I can walk you through it if you like.

Closer to 2.2% when you strip out data centre capex.

Data center capex is due to the confidence in the USA winning the AI race due to Trumps big moves on energy. Something China desperately needs.

So I give Trump all the credit for Capex and the huge GDP numbers.
Gotta give credit where it’s due Goose. Who else you gonna give the credit too?

Trump is securing USA dominance and keeping China in its place. Something we all should be thankful for. After all it’s pretty important, don’t you agree?

[WHU(Exeter)]

I’m not a “Libtard” Nutsin and I detest pretty much all of what that stands for.

I think the thing that I hate most in my life though is flat track bullies, (that and whoever decided it would be a good idea to sell marmite in plastic tubs).

So I’m happy that as a country, we’ve had the moral backbone to join other countries, in sticking up for Denmark, rather than back down each and every time he has a late night brainstorm.

If he thinks he doesn’t need Western Europe, then fuck him and he can fuck us off at the same time.

I’m sure he’ll find a way of stopping China in their tracks without us. Maybe invade Honduras or something? Take two years doing it and then leave 20 years later, with the same people back in charge?

[goose]

The United States have been carrying the free world?

God help us all then, if a country with more military might than the fucking Taliban start threatening us all.

The United States are lashing out, like most major powers/empires did, when they were in a state of decline.

With the real threat of continued Chinese influence across the globe,  best bet is a united front and allies keeping common purpose, not Trump throwing his toys out the pram and threatening countries like Denmark.

Atlanta Fed is predicting the 4th quarter GDP print to be above 5%……The Golden age is upon us!

Real growth is somewhere between 2.6 to 3.0%. Before you cry 'liberal myth' I can walk you through it if you like.

Closer to 2.2% when you strip out data centre capex.

[goose]

Trump strolls in with a major power flex, whipping up a frenzy of fear and dominant rhetoric then casually strolls out with exactly what he wanted, Land, Minerals and security without giving up a single thing. Like a Boss!

 

. Did he actually manage to acquire Greenland then? I must have blinked and missed it

He bought Iceland instead.

These things can get awfully confusing.

[Mr Anon]

Trump strolls in with a major power flex, whipping up a frenzy of fear and dominant rhetoric then casually strolls out with exactly what he wanted, Land, Minerals and security without giving up a single thing. Like a Boss!

. Did he actually manage to acquire Greenland then? I must have blinked and missed it

[Nutsin]

The United States have been carrying the free world?

God help us all then, if a country with more military might than the fucking Taliban start threatening us all.

The United States are lashing out, like most major powers/empires did, when they were in a state of decline.

With the real threat of continued Chinese influence across the globe,  best bet is a united front and allies keeping common purpose, not Trump throwing his toys out the pram and threatening countries like Denmark.

That’s just it, the USA doesn’t share a common purpose with the  unelected bloat and self destruction of the EU, globalists and Liberal self loathing.


Trump and his admin strolled into Davos and told the world what’s up, that globalism is a colossal failure as is the EU and it’s all about to change. 

It is Europes model that is flawed and heading for disaster just look at the mess you are in ffs.

Trump strolls in with a major power flex, whipping up a frenzy of fear and dominant rhetoric then casually strolls out with exactly what he wanted, Land, Minerals and security without giving up a single thing. Like a Boss!


And all you Libtards are patting each other on the back, saying we showed him… It’s fucking comical.

Whats next? My guess is Iran will get some attention as will Cuba when the time is right. Venezuela will have a pro American Gov’t in place and Canada will continue to decline rapidly until they force out their liberal Gov’t for a more pro Trump administration.
I think you’ll hear the Mexican Cartels will get their long overdue attention too.


in the mean time you can enjoy your curry while your quality of life goes to shit and your kids continue to get groomed and your Gov’t throws you in jail without trial by jury for dissent.

We’ll continue to prosper under the very blanket of common sense America first policy that is proving to be a huge success for Americans.

Atlanta Fed is predicting the 4th quarter GDP print to be above 5%……The Golden age is upon us!


MAGA! Where winners win!


It’s you poor cunts that have the mental illness!

[happygilmore]

Have you got an Audiobook version? 

Must admit I didn’t realize it was that long.

Mods might want to delete.

And everything else he's ever posted too please. How can you not realise the length of something YOU posted?. Yet more evidence you just google and post a response without reading or watching it when people constantly make you look silly

Mods should leave them here. Someone in the future might be able to use them as a case study of mental illness.

[WHU(Exeter)]

The United States have been carrying the free world?

God help us all then, if a country with more military might than the fucking Taliban start threatening us all.

The United States are lashing out, like most major powers/empires did, when they were in a state of decline.

With the real threat of continued Chinese influence across the globe,  best bet is a united front and allies keeping common purpose, not Trump throwing his toys out the pram and threatening countries like Denmark.

[Mr Anon]

Have you got an Audiobook version? 

Must admit I didn’t realize it was that long.

Mods might want to delete.

And everything else he's ever posted too please. How can you not realise the length of something YOU posted?. Yet more evidence you just google and post a response without reading or watching it when people constantly make you look silly

[goose]

Deleting that nonsense is the best idea you’ve ever had.

[Nutsin]

Have you got an Audiobook version? 

Must admit I didn’t realize it was that long.

Mods might want to delete.

[Massive Attack]

Have you got an Audiobook version? 

[Nutsin]

Here you go Goose you simpleton, here is a bit more info for you try and absorb. Although I doubt any of it will sink in.

wether wrong or right I agree with the part about the US investing in a Defense system while the EU thinks their laws apply or even International law. Trump wants it under US law, there is the rub in my opinion. No crazy globalist, liberal fuckwits will control the Golden Dome.

hope that helps!



The World Is Re-Arming. America Is Repositioning.
And Too Many People Still Think This Is About Politics.

If you think this is about Greenland, you’re already behind.

“Greenland doesn’t belong to us.”

That sounds reasonable.
It sounds polite.

And it completely ignores how power actually works.

You can skim a few shallow takes that repeat the same safe talking points.

Or you can spend a few minutes here and understand what’s really happening.

That choice is yours.

This is not written for the easily offended.

If your first instinct is emotional outrage, pause and ask yourself one honest question:

When has comfort ever stopped a rising threat?

Right now, Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin are watching the West closely. Not angrily, curiously. 

Likely wondering how the United States ever became a superpower… and how it managed to stay one for so long.

We’ll come back to them.

First, Greenland and the free world.

What Donald Trump did was say out loud what global leaders have whispered for decades:

The United States has been carrying the free world, and the free world got comfortable with it.

NATO Isn’t What It Used to Be and Everyone Knows It

NATO was built when Europe remembered what real war costs. Leaders understood how global conflicts begin, not just how they end.

That seriousness is gone.

Many NATO nations have:
 • Slashed their own military spending
 • Opened borders without control
 • Adopted internal policies that weakened national cohesion
 • Outsourced their security to the United States

Then they turn to America and say, “You’ve got us, right?”

That isn’t partnership.
That’s dependency.

What an Ally Actually Is

Let’s be honest.

An ally isn’t someone who smiles while you fund them then attacks you the moment you assert your own interests.

An ally:
 • Shares your values
 • Defends itself
 • Stands with you when it’s uncomfortable, not just convenient

Many so-called allies no longer meet that standard. 

They weakened themselves, relied on American protection, and criticized the very country ensuring their survival.

That isn’t alliance.
That’s reliance.

Here’s another uncomfortable truth:

Allies are not unconditional friends. Nations don’t survive on emotion or moral signaling. They survive on reciprocity, strength, and shared interests.

That’s why Trump was attacked.

When the U.S. demanded NATO countries pay their share and take responsibility, the response wasn’t cooperation, it was outrage.

That reaction revealed everything.

Real allies don’t complain when asked to carry their own weight.

Canada: The Perfect Example

Ask yourself this honestly:

If the United States stopped defending Canada tomorrow, how long would Canada last?

Russia wouldn’t hesitate. It would abandon the hard fight in Ukraine for a far easier, richer target.

Canada.

A week?
A day?

Likely surrender within 24 hours.

And yet Canada feels free to openly criticize the U.S.

Why?

Because they know a hostile power on America’s northern border is unacceptable. Their freedom to criticize us exists because we protect them.

Think about that.

Liberalism on the World Stage Is Dangerous

This needs to be said plainly.

Liberalism is dangerous globally because it is emotional, unserious, and unprepared for a world that punishes weakness.

Across parts of Europe, the UK, and Australia:
 • Speech is fined or criminalized
 • Governments decide acceptable opinions
 • Dissent is treated as a threat

That is not freedom.

And it is not the behavior of an ally.

Now ask yourself:

Do China or Russia allow open borders?
Do they tolerate dissent when power is threatened?

No.

China is imprisoning millions of Uyghurs.
Russia has slaughtered over a million Ukrainians.

China has nearly doubled military spending, built the world’s largest navy, developed hypersonic missiles, and purchased land globally for strategic positioning.

Those weapons aren’t symbolic.
They already have targets.

Meanwhile, Western leaders pretend the world is safe while hiding behind American strength.

The Choice Is Simple

The world will follow one of two systems:
 • The United States
 • China and Russia

There is no third option waiting in the wings.

Europe can’t defend itself without us.
Canada can’t.
Australia can’t.

If America falls, freedom doesn’t relocate.
It collapses everywhere.

Greenland Is About Defending Freedom…Everywhere

This isn’t about flags or profit.

Greenland is one of the most strategically critical defense positions on Earth. It’s a gateway to North America.

Modern missile technology moves faster than legacy defense systems were built to stop. 

Greenland is essential for early detection and interception before threats reach American cities.

Military planners know this.
NATO knows this.
Denmark knows this.

But the U.S. cannot build permanent, trillion-dollar defense infrastructure, including next-generation missile defense on land governed by foreign law. 

Treaties aren’t secure enough for systems of that scale.

So ask yourself:

If NATO truly stands with America, why oppose America protecting itself?

Sending military forces to Greenland before negotiations even begin isn’t partnership.

It’s fear.

NATO’s Real Fear

Here’s what they won’t say out loud:

They fear that once America fully secures North America, we won’t need them.

And they’re not wrong.

Under current leadership and policies, NATO has become more burden than benefit.

America has already increased military spending from roughly 3% toward 5% of GDP. That alone tells you how serious the threat picture really is.

At some point, it makes sense to stop writing blank checks to governments that refuse to defend themselves.

That doesn’t mean abandoning allies.
It means redefining responsibility.

What Trump Is Actually Doing

This isn’t aggression.

It’s preparation.

You secure your home first or you lose everything.

Greenland isn’t about control.
It’s about survival in a hostile world.

This isn’t comforting.
It isn’t polite.

And it won’t make everyone feel good.

But those who’ve lived long enough understand the lesson:

Weakness masquerading as virtue leads to collapse.

Reality doesn’t care about feelings.

It only responds to strength.

[Nutsin]

[goose]

It’s a huge embarrassment for the man who was very clear that nothing other than total ownership of Greenland would do.

The opportunity for more military presence in Greenland was always there before his ridiculous claims.

[Cabbige Savage]

Get that he said multiple times that he must own Greenland and have full control? That’s not happening.

At any time the US could have put more military on Greenland, that’s not changed. 

So you’re painting the thing he could have had anyway with the embarrassing climb down as a ‘win’?

First off nobody knows any details about anything at this point.

secondly Trump always goes in with a strong hand, it’s called positioning ffs. That’s part of the art of the deal. He does it every time. He lets every one know that he has the positioning and can do whatever he pleases to gain an advantage in negotiations.

And like a child you post pics of tacos…

Too stupid to take serious.

Right, so you don’t know the details of the deal but you post it as a ‘win’.

anything other than control or ownership of Greenland is an embarrassment climb down. For once the EU stood up to trump and he had to back down.

 

 

yessss
Trump no not to try & push makron, stammer and sanchez abowt.
We have EU Super Army + many sub Saharan and sand people who will fight for us all so.  

Good Times

[Nutsin]

Jo

First off nobody knows any details about anything at this point.

secondly Trump always goes in with a strong hand, it’s called positioning ffs. That’s part of the art of the deal. He does it every time. He lets every one know that he has the positioning and can do whatever he pleases to gain an advantage in negotiations.

And like a child you post pics of tacos…

Too stupid to take serious.

Right, so you don’t know the details of the deal but you post it as a ‘win’.

anything other than control or ownership of Greenland is an embarrassment climb down. For once the EU stood up to trump and he had to back down.

Yeah it’s a win the USA will get it’s Golden Dome and we will all be safer.

Whats not to like?

And all thanks to Trump!

[Nutsin]

Get that he said multiple times that he must own Greenland and have full control? That’s not happening.

At any time the US could have put more military on Greenland, that’s not changed. 

So you’re painting the thing he could have had anyway with the embarrassing climb down as a ‘win’?

First off nobody knows any details about anything at this point.

secondly Trump always goes in with a strong hand, it’s called positioning ffs. That’s part of the art of the deal. He does it every time. He lets every one know that he has the positioning and can do whatever he pleases to gain an advantage in negotiations.

And like a child you post pics of tacos…

Too stupid to take serious.

Right, so you don’t know the details of the deal but you post it as a ‘win’.

anything other than control or ownership of Greenland is an embarrassment climb down. For once the EU stood up to trump and he had to back down.

Yeah it’s a win the USA will get it’s Golden Dome and we will all be safer.

Whats not to like?