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Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:50goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:38The driver of the net exports number is the significant drop off in imports (demand).
The shrinking imports number is what is driving 2% of that GDP growth figure.
Such an important indicator of domestic demand isn't a silly negative. It just underlines everything I have been telling you.
Meantime the US nation debt grew by $6bn s day in Q4. One of the fatest debt accumulation periods in US history. Are you gonna pretend that doesnt matter either?Increase in GDP and lower interest rates will help tackle the debt. Wait till the tax cuts kick in!
You might want to read up on Macro and micro economics. I think that will help!
National Debt is growing at $6bn a day............... and your response is "wait until the tax cut kicks in".
The same tax cut you're own government estimate they will add $360bn to the national debt every year?
and then you tell me to read up on economics? who says they dont get irony in america
The same tax cut you're own government estimate they will add $360bn to the national debt every year?
and then you tell me to read up on economics? who says they dont get irony in america
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goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:38Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:26goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:14its the same data less net exports & inventories. But i'm sure you already knew that.........
domestic demand has dropped off and in turn so have imports.
strip those out and you have c2.75% of growth and an economy running on services, credit and tech capex.
i feel like i should start charging you a fee for all this teaching, you've learned a lot these last couple of days.I see you forgot to mention exports are up, the 100’s of Billikns in new Tarriff money and the huge reduction in the trade deficit numbers.
Yeah you keep picking out whatever silly negative you can find, I’ll focus on what matters.The driver of the net exports number is the significant drop off in imports (demand).
The shrinking imports number is what is driving 2% of that GDP growth figure.
Such an important indicator of domestic demand isn't a silly negative. It just underlines everything I have been telling you.
Meantime the US nation debt grew by $6bn s day in Q4. One of the fatest debt accumulation periods in US history. Are you gonna pretend that doesnt matter either?
Increase in GDP and lower interest rates will help tackle the debt. Wait till the tax cuts kick in!
You might want to read up on Macro and micro economics. I think that will help!
You might want to read up on Macro and micro economics. I think that will help!
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I do understand Nutsin.
The world is going through really challenging times and China is an increasing threat, to the rest of the world.
Therefore a United front of allies is the best bet to confront that.
Only an idiot would go hell bent on upsetting their allies, at this point in history.
And as for growing a spine, maybe "the BOSS' could grow one of his own, in time for the next time he meets Putin.
The world is going through really challenging times and China is an increasing threat, to the rest of the world.
Therefore a United front of allies is the best bet to confront that.
Only an idiot would go hell bent on upsetting their allies, at this point in history.
And as for growing a spine, maybe "the BOSS' could grow one of his own, in time for the next time he meets Putin.
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Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:26goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:14Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:10Oh picking your data points again?
I know big numbers scare you. What usually happens is the headline number drags the micro numbers upward with time, once the data centers are built and are functional. But don’t let that scare you.
I’ll be back with more good news as the year progresses. Keep it tuned!its the same data less net exports & inventories. But i'm sure you already knew that.........
domestic demand has dropped off and in turn so have imports.
strip those out and you have c2.75% of growth and an economy running on services, credit and tech capex.
i feel like i should start charging you a fee for all this teaching, you've learned a lot these last couple of days.I see you forgot to mention exports are up, the 100’s of Billikns in new Tarriff money and the huge reduction in the trade deficit numbers.
Yeah you keep picking out whatever silly negative you can find, I’ll focus on what matters.
The driver of the net exports number is the significant drop off in imports (demand).
The shrinking imports number is what is driving 2% of that GDP growth figure.
Such an important indicator of domestic demand isn't a silly negative. It just underlines everything I have been telling you.
Meantime the US nation debt grew by $6bn s day in Q4. One of the fatest debt accumulation periods in US history. Are you gonna pretend that doesnt matter either?
The shrinking imports number is what is driving 2% of that GDP growth figure.
Such an important indicator of domestic demand isn't a silly negative. It just underlines everything I have been telling you.
Meantime the US nation debt grew by $6bn s day in Q4. One of the fatest debt accumulation periods in US history. Are you gonna pretend that doesnt matter either?
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WHU(Exeter) wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:24 Always have and always will only have one side Nutsin, Britain, the place of my birth.
It would be a shame if the alliance came to an end though, who knows, you might need us again one day, if it all came on top in an invasion of a superpower like Grenada
You still don’t understand. Ffs! I give up! Unreal!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:14Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:10Oh picking your data points again?
I know big numbers scare you. What usually happens is the headline number drags the micro numbers upward with time, once the data centers are built and are functional. But don’t let that scare you.
I’ll be back with more good news as the year progresses. Keep it tuned!its the same data less net exports & inventories. But i'm sure you already knew that.........
domestic demand has dropped off and in turn so have imports.
strip those out and you have c2.75% of growth and an economy running on services, credit and tech capex.
i feel like i should start charging you a fee for all this teaching, you've learned a lot these last couple of days.
I see you forgot to mention exports are up, the 100’s of Billikns in new Tarriff money and the huge reduction in the trade deficit numbers.
Yeah you keep picking out whatever silly negative you can find, I’ll focus on what matters.
Yeah you keep picking out whatever silly negative you can find, I’ll focus on what matters.
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Always have and always will only have one side Nutsin, Britain, the place of my birth.
It would be a shame if the alliance came to an end though, who knows, you might need us again one day, if it all came on top in an invasion of a superpower like Grenada
It would be a shame if the alliance came to an end though, who knows, you might need us again one day, if it all came on top in an invasion of a superpower like Grenada
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Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:10goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:54Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:48I think you’ll find the GDP print is 4.4% for the 3rd quarter of 2025. And the Atlanta Fed (considered to be the most accurate) is forecasting a GDP print of a whopping 5.4% for the 4th quarter. We’ll get the actual print here soon so I’ll be sure to let you know what it comes in at. But these GDP numbers are pretty impressive, thanks to Trumps world tour of America first.
I know it hurts!That's why i offered to walk you through the numbers.
The idea of domestic final demand clearly goes over your head.Oh picking your data points again?
I know big numbers scare you. What usually happens is the headline number drags the micro numbers upward with time, once the data centers are built and are functional. But don’t let that scare you.
I’ll be back with more good news as the year progresses. Keep it tuned!
its the same data less net exports & inventories. But i'm sure you already knew that.........
domestic demand has dropped off and in turn so have imports.
strip those out and you have c2.75% of growth and an economy running on services, credit and tech capex.
i feel like i should start charging you a fee for all this teaching, you've learned a lot these last couple of days.
domestic demand has dropped off and in turn so have imports.
strip those out and you have c2.75% of growth and an economy running on services, credit and tech capex.
i feel like i should start charging you a fee for all this teaching, you've learned a lot these last couple of days.
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goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:54Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:48I think you’ll find the GDP print is 4.4% for the 3rd quarter of 2025. And the Atlanta Fed (considered to be the most accurate) is forecasting a GDP print of a whopping 5.4% for the 4th quarter. We’ll get the actual print here soon so I’ll be sure to let you know what it comes in at. But these GDP numbers are pretty impressive, thanks to Trumps world tour of America first.
I know it hurts!That's why i offered to walk you through the numbers.
The idea of domestic final demand clearly goes over your head.
Oh picking your data points again?
I know big numbers scare you. What usually happens is the headline number drags the micro numbers upward with time, once the data centers are built and are functional. But don’t let that scare you.
I’ll be back with more good news as the year progresses. Keep it tuned!
I know big numbers scare you. What usually happens is the headline number drags the micro numbers upward with time, once the data centers are built and are functional. But don’t let that scare you.
I’ll be back with more good news as the year progresses. Keep it tuned!
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WHU(Exeter) wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:52 Well cheers for that Nutsin.
if anything does happen to Britain, I'm sure the US can steam in near the end.
MAIFO
Oh that old chestnut!
you need to pick a side, grow a spine!
Trumps trying to put an end to the Ukraine/ Russia conflict, Starmer is talking about war and sending old vets off to fight. Your kids and grandkids will be next.
Hardly much of a choice really, is it.
Just think of all the fun the Immigrants will have with the kids when all of you are fighting the Russians.
you need to pick a side, grow a spine!
Trumps trying to put an end to the Ukraine/ Russia conflict, Starmer is talking about war and sending old vets off to fight. Your kids and grandkids will be next.
Hardly much of a choice really, is it.
Just think of all the fun the Immigrants will have with the kids when all of you are fighting the Russians.
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Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:48goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:37Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:31Data center capex is due to the confidence in the USA winning the AI race due to Trumps big moves on energy. Something China desperately needs.
So I give Trump all the credit for Capex and the huge GDP numbers.
Gotta give credit where it’s due Goose. Who else you gonna give the credit too?
Trump is securing USA dominance and keeping China in its place. Something we all should be thankful for. After all it’s pretty important, don’t you agree?2.6% to 3.0% includes the capital investment.
thats in-line with Q4 in 2022, 2018 and 2019.
hardly a 'golden age'.I think you’ll find the GDP print is 4.4% for the 3rd quarter of 2025. And the Atlanta Fed (considered to be the most accurate) is forecasting a GDP print of a whopping 5.4% for the 4th quarter. We’ll get the actual print here soon so I’ll be sure to let you know what it comes in at. But these GDP numbers are pretty impressive, thanks to Trumps world tour of America first.
I know it hurts!
That's why i offered to walk you through the numbers.
The idea of domestic final demand clearly goes over your head.
The idea of domestic final demand clearly goes over your head.
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Well cheers for that Nutsin.
if anything does happen to Britain, I'm sure the US can steam in near the end.
MAIFO
if anything does happen to Britain, I'm sure the US can steam in near the end.
MAIFO
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goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:37Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:31Data center capex is due to the confidence in the USA winning the AI race due to Trumps big moves on energy. Something China desperately needs.
So I give Trump all the credit for Capex and the huge GDP numbers.
Gotta give credit where it’s due Goose. Who else you gonna give the credit too?
Trump is securing USA dominance and keeping China in its place. Something we all should be thankful for. After all it’s pretty important, don’t you agree?2.6% to 3.0% includes the capital investment.
thats in-line with Q4 in 2022, 2018 and 2019.
hardly a 'golden age'.
I think you’ll find the GDP print is 4.4% for the 3rd quarter of 2025. And the Atlanta Fed (considered to be the most accurate) is forecasting a GDP print of a whopping 5.4% for the 4th quarter. We’ll get the actual print here soon so I’ll be sure to let you know what it comes in at. But these GDP numbers are pretty impressive, thanks to Trumps world tour of America first.
I know it hurts!
I know it hurts!
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It is worth reading PM Carney’s speech at the WEF at Davos. The contrast between his and Trump’s rambling, self centred and often incorrect bawblings of yesterday is stark.
Carney’s perception and conclusion about Trump’s stewardship of the USA is corruscating. He made points about the world as it is now that many Americans are uncomfortable with, the likelihood for example that by alienating long term partners the USA would stand alone whereas former allies would of necessity be united and on a different trajectory.
I consider Trump to be a self centred idiot but after recent events and following yesterday’s speech of his I realise that I have grossly underestimated his idiocy.
Carney’s perception and conclusion about Trump’s stewardship of the USA is corruscating. He made points about the world as it is now that many Americans are uncomfortable with, the likelihood for example that by alienating long term partners the USA would stand alone whereas former allies would of necessity be united and on a different trajectory.
I consider Trump to be a self centred idiot but after recent events and following yesterday’s speech of his I realise that I have grossly underestimated his idiocy.
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Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:31Data center capex is due to the confidence in the USA winning the AI race due to Trumps big moves on energy. Something China desperately needs.
So I give Trump all the credit for Capex and the huge GDP numbers.
Gotta give credit where it’s due Goose. Who else you gonna give the credit too?
Trump is securing USA dominance and keeping China in its place. Something we all should be thankful for. After all it’s pretty important, don’t you agree?
2.6% to 3.0% includes the capital investment.
thats in-line with Q4 in 2022, 2018 and 2019.
hardly a 'golden age'.
thats in-line with Q4 in 2022, 2018 and 2019.
hardly a 'golden age'.
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WHU(Exeter) wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:25 I’m not a “Libtard” Nutsin and I detest pretty much all of what that stands for.
I think the thing that I hate most in my life though is flat track bullies, (that and whoever decided it would be a good idea to sell marmite in plastic tubs).
So I’m happy that as a country, we’ve had the moral backbone to join other countries, in sticking up for Denmark, rather than back down each and every time he has a late night brainstorm.
If he thinks he doesn’t need Western Europe, then fuck him and he can fuck us off at the same time.
I’m sure he’ll find a way of stopping China in their tracks without us. Maybe invade Honduras or something? Take two years doing it and then leave 20 years later, with the same people back in charge?
One of these days you’ll wake up to the big picture and you’ll be thankful you had the big bully in your corner. You just don’t realize how much shit you are in. Don’t worry you will and you’ll realize who the real enemy is.
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goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:17Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:01WHU(Exeter) wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 11:05 The United States have been carrying the free world?
God help us all then, if a country with more military might than the fucking Taliban start threatening us all.
The United States are lashing out, like most major powers/empires did, when they were in a state of decline.
With the real threat of continued Chinese influence across the globe, best bet is a united front and allies keeping common purpose, not Trump throwing his toys out the pram and threatening countries like Denmark.
Atlanta Fed is predicting the 4th quarter GDP print to be above 5%……The Golden age is upon us!Real growth is somewhere between 2.6 to 3.0%. Before you cry 'liberal myth' I can walk you through it if you like.
Closer to 2.2% when you strip out data centre capex.
Data center capex is due to the confidence in the USA winning the AI race due to Trumps big moves on energy. Something China desperately needs.
So I give Trump all the credit for Capex and the huge GDP numbers.
Gotta give credit where it’s due Goose. Who else you gonna give the credit too?
Trump is securing USA dominance and keeping China in its place. Something we all should be thankful for. After all it’s pretty important, don’t you agree?
So I give Trump all the credit for Capex and the huge GDP numbers.
Gotta give credit where it’s due Goose. Who else you gonna give the credit too?
Trump is securing USA dominance and keeping China in its place. Something we all should be thankful for. After all it’s pretty important, don’t you agree?
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I’m not a “Libtard” Nutsin and I detest pretty much all of what that stands for.
I think the thing that I hate most in my life though is flat track bullies, (that and whoever decided it would be a good idea to sell marmite in plastic tubs).
So I’m happy that as a country, we’ve had the moral backbone to join other countries, in sticking up for Denmark, rather than back down each and every time he has a late night brainstorm.
If he thinks he doesn’t need Western Europe, then fuck him and he can fuck us off at the same time.
I’m sure he’ll find a way of stopping China in their tracks without us. Maybe invade Honduras or something? Take two years doing it and then leave 20 years later, with the same people back in charge?
I think the thing that I hate most in my life though is flat track bullies, (that and whoever decided it would be a good idea to sell marmite in plastic tubs).
So I’m happy that as a country, we’ve had the moral backbone to join other countries, in sticking up for Denmark, rather than back down each and every time he has a late night brainstorm.
If he thinks he doesn’t need Western Europe, then fuck him and he can fuck us off at the same time.
I’m sure he’ll find a way of stopping China in their tracks without us. Maybe invade Honduras or something? Take two years doing it and then leave 20 years later, with the same people back in charge?
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Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:01WHU(Exeter) wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 11:05 The United States have been carrying the free world?
God help us all then, if a country with more military might than the fucking Taliban start threatening us all.
The United States are lashing out, like most major powers/empires did, when they were in a state of decline.
With the real threat of continued Chinese influence across the globe, best bet is a united front and allies keeping common purpose, not Trump throwing his toys out the pram and threatening countries like Denmark.
Atlanta Fed is predicting the 4th quarter GDP print to be above 5%……The Golden age is upon us!
Real growth is somewhere between 2.6 to 3.0%. Before you cry 'liberal myth' I can walk you through it if you like.
Closer to 2.2% when you strip out data centre capex.
Closer to 2.2% when you strip out data centre capex.
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He bought Iceland instead.
These things can get awfully confusing.
These things can get awfully confusing.
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. Did he actually manage to acquire Greenland then? I must have blinked and missed it
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WHU(Exeter) wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 11:05 The United States have been carrying the free world?
God help us all then, if a country with more military might than the fucking Taliban start threatening us all.
The United States are lashing out, like most major powers/empires did, when they were in a state of decline.
With the real threat of continued Chinese influence across the globe, best bet is a united front and allies keeping common purpose, not Trump throwing his toys out the pram and threatening countries like Denmark.
That’s just it, the USA doesn’t share a common purpose with the unelected bloat and self destruction of the EU, globalists and Liberal self loathing.
Trump and his admin strolled into Davos and told the world what’s up, that globalism is a colossal failure as is the EU and it’s all about to change.
It is Europes model that is flawed and heading for disaster just look at the mess you are in ffs.
Trump strolls in with a major power flex, whipping up a frenzy of fear and dominant rhetoric then casually strolls out with exactly what he wanted, Land, Minerals and security without giving up a single thing. Like a Boss!
And all you Libtards are patting each other on the back, saying we showed him… It’s fucking comical.
Whats next? My guess is Iran will get some attention as will Cuba when the time is right. Venezuela will have a pro American Gov’t in place and Canada will continue to decline rapidly until they force out their liberal Gov’t for a more pro Trump administration.
I think you’ll hear the Mexican Cartels will get their long overdue attention too.
in the mean time you can enjoy your curry while your quality of life goes to shit and your kids continue to get groomed and your Gov’t throws you in jail without trial by jury for dissent.
We’ll continue to prosper under the very blanket of common sense America first policy that is proving to be a huge success for Americans.
Atlanta Fed is predicting the 4th quarter GDP print to be above 5%……The Golden age is upon us!
MAGA! Where winners win!
It’s you poor cunts that have the mental illness!
Trump and his admin strolled into Davos and told the world what’s up, that globalism is a colossal failure as is the EU and it’s all about to change.
It is Europes model that is flawed and heading for disaster just look at the mess you are in ffs.
Trump strolls in with a major power flex, whipping up a frenzy of fear and dominant rhetoric then casually strolls out with exactly what he wanted, Land, Minerals and security without giving up a single thing. Like a Boss!
And all you Libtards are patting each other on the back, saying we showed him… It’s fucking comical.
Whats next? My guess is Iran will get some attention as will Cuba when the time is right. Venezuela will have a pro American Gov’t in place and Canada will continue to decline rapidly until they force out their liberal Gov’t for a more pro Trump administration.
I think you’ll hear the Mexican Cartels will get their long overdue attention too.
in the mean time you can enjoy your curry while your quality of life goes to shit and your kids continue to get groomed and your Gov’t throws you in jail without trial by jury for dissent.
We’ll continue to prosper under the very blanket of common sense America first policy that is proving to be a huge success for Americans.
Atlanta Fed is predicting the 4th quarter GDP print to be above 5%……The Golden age is upon us!
MAGA! Where winners win!
It’s you poor cunts that have the mental illness!
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Mr Anon" wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 08:28And everything else he's ever posted too please. How can you not realise the length of something YOU posted?. Yet more evidence you just google and post a response without reading or watching it when people constantly make you look silly
Mods should leave them here. Someone in the future might be able to use them as a case study of mental illness.
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The United States have been carrying the free world?
God help us all then, if a country with more military might than the fucking Taliban start threatening us all.
The United States are lashing out, like most major powers/empires did, when they were in a state of decline.
With the real threat of continued Chinese influence across the globe, best bet is a united front and allies keeping common purpose, not Trump throwing his toys out the pram and threatening countries like Denmark.
God help us all then, if a country with more military might than the fucking Taliban start threatening us all.
The United States are lashing out, like most major powers/empires did, when they were in a state of decline.
With the real threat of continued Chinese influence across the globe, best bet is a united front and allies keeping common purpose, not Trump throwing his toys out the pram and threatening countries like Denmark.
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And everything else he's ever posted too please. How can you not realise the length of something YOU posted?. Yet more evidence you just google and post a response without reading or watching it when people constantly make you look silly