Nutsin 7:52 Sat Jan 15
Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
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Lots of talk here that he is about to invade Ukraine.
NATO and the US won’t get involved but heavy sanctions have been threatened and Putin has threatened ending all diplomatic ties with the west.
Latest is that Putin will stage an attack making it look like Ukraine starts the conflict.
What’s being reported over there?
Is it about to kick off?
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clarky
1:42 Sat Apr 1
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A year to completely rebuild a city?
Oh yeah that’s completely feasible, it’s not like there’s a war on so there should be plenty of labour
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thecockneyboy
1:35 Sat Apr 1
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero 1:30 Sat Apr 1
What a complete load of bollocks that is, they're saying a new recruit entering Bakhmut will last for 4 hours, that's it, that's not season troops already there, or a fully trained soldier returning from his unit from R&R,.
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thecockneyboy
1:32 Sat Apr 1
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Pickle the Russians have completely rebuilt Mariupol, it looks better now than it did before the war, you really need to turn you TV off.
https://english.elpais.com/international/2023-01-13/after-months-of-bombing-russia-starts-rebuilding-mariupol.html
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
1:30 Sat Apr 1
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Let's examine Sergei's claim.
There are currently about 10,000 Ukrainians defending Bakhmut - let's assume half of them are recruits.
So, at a four hour life expectancy, that means 5,000 * 6 (24hours is a day divided by 4 hours) or 30,000 recruits are dying every day (that's dying not wounded, unless 'life expectancy' has a different meaning in Ukraine), 30,000 times 110 days (that's how long the Russian offensive in actual Bakhmut has been) is 3.3 million dead. Assume the standard 3 to 1 killed to wounded ratio and that's 13.2 million dead or wounded. Not a problem you might say, because, as we know, all the Ukrainians are coming back to fight without any arms or legs.
Now let's look from the Russian side. The standard ratio of casualties for attacking forces in an urban area is 7 to 1. Let's assume all these Russian convicts and conscriptees are especially, brave, well-trained and well-equipped. So let's make it 5 to 1.
That means the Russians must have lost 66 million dead and wounded in the last 110 days. More than in the whole of WW2 and over a quarter of its entire population.
But I'm sure Sergei has it right.
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Hammer and Pickle
1:17 Sat Apr 1
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The situation described in the linked articles indicates the Kremlin is about to achieve those aims. Yet you say there is no timeline and certainly no criteria for making sure the gains are not disaster areas.
Got a link addressing this basic aspect, saddo?
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
1:12 Sat Apr 1
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So, it's like one Corporal or something? And it's not multiple sources, it's one source reported several times.
And if it were true, it wouldn't have taken the Russians 110 days to advance 20 blocks.
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riosleftsock
12:56 Sat Apr 1
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Russia's objectives have been stated clearly and repeatedly and at no time has Russia put any timeline on them.
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Hammer and Pickle
11:48 Sat Apr 1
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Yes saddo.
How about addressing the nice basic question about the Kremlin's war aims and the condition of the territory once it has occupied it?
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riosleftsock
11:44 Sat Apr 1
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He is quoting 2 pro-Ukrainian sources; ABC News and Kyiv Independent. Serhei would be the Ukrainian equivalent of the Russian name Sergei
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Hammer and Pickle
10:17 Sat Apr 1
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OK boy - let’s believe your sources (mostly called Serhei); Ukrainians have four hours to live at Bakhamut, are using WWII kit, have too little support and are generally getting battered.
So when is the Kremlin going to achieve its stated war aims of “liberating” the whole of Donetsk and Lugansk? And what state will it be in when they do? Because judging by the state of Mariupol, Severodonetsk or Bakhamut, the Ukrainians are not going to hand it over without a fight.
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RdUeSpSrEeLsLsed
9:08 Sat Apr 1
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That’s ironic you use the word groomers joyo
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Nutsin
9:05 Sat Apr 1
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I think Tex likes mushrooms!
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joyo
3:25 Sat Apr 1
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cockboy 12.23...4 hours?????Fuck me where do you get this bollocks???Oh wait a minute some right wing extremist flat earther site that has groomed you!
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thecockneyboy
12:56 Sat Apr 1
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And here
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/International/nonstop-shelling-former-us-marine-fighting-bakhmut-fighting/story%3fid=97324824
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thecockneyboy
12:53 Sat Apr 1
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https://kyivindependent.com/ukrainian-soldiers-in-bakhmut-our-troops-are-not-being-protected/
Here you go Pickle
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riosleftsock
12:52 Sat Apr 1
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From Ukraine Pravda
"On Friday the Hungarian parliament adopted a resolution proposed by the ruling party Fidesz in which it declared its commitment to achieving peace in Ukraine. Most of the resolution consists of criticism of the European Union’s sanctions against Russia.
Source: European Pravda, citing the resolution
The eight-paragraph resolution, which was adopted by 130 Hungarian parliamentarians, with 24 voting against, emphasised the desire for peace and called on all members of the international community to "work for the earliest possible peace and avoid actions that could lead to an escalation of the war".
Separately, the lawmakers "repeatedly condemned Russia's military aggression and acknowledged Ukraine's right to defend itself".
The next two paragraphs – the longest in the document – are a sustained critique of the European Union's sanctions, which have not "muted the war and have brought the Russian economy to its knees". Furthermore, because of the sanctions, energy prices have increased, and therefore Europe is "financing the Russian war".
"We are against Brussels' plans to expand the scope of energy sanctions. A complete ban on the import of oil and gas and a ban on the import of nuclear fuel will lead to significant disruptions in supply and even greater inflation in EU member states, particularly Hungary," the parliamentarians said.
Even in a paragraph emphasising Budapest's commitment to EU and NATO membership, it cites "public consultations" on sanctions and the April 2022 election results as evidence that "instead of arms supplies and further sanctions, peace talks should begin as soon as possible".
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Separately, the resolution emphasises that since the beginning of Russia’s full-scale invasion, Hungary has been carrying out "the largest humanitarian operation in its history", and the Hungarian population of Zakarpattia (Transcarpathia) is "suffering greatly from the armed conflict" and from conscription, which "is dragging even more Transcarpathians to the front line".
In addition, at the behest of Fidesz, a paragraph was added to the resolution calling on Hungarian politicians to "refrain from positions and political actions that could cause significant economic damage to Hungary or lead it to war". This amendment was aimed at opposition politicians who have systematically criticised Fidesz and Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán.
Hungary claims that the supply of arms to Ukraine and the sanctions have not been measures that could help bring peace to Ukraine. Hungarian officials have also repeatedly stated that negotiations between Biden and Putin are needed if the war in Ukraine is to be resolved.
Only recently, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán said that the leaders of the European Union are close to discussing sending peacekeeping forces to Ukraine."
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Hammer and Pickle
12:48 Sat Apr 1
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Oh I see.
How very unfunny and in the worst possible taste.
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Hammer and Pickle
12:33 Sat Apr 1
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Your source for that, boy?
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thecockneyboy
12:23 Sat Apr 1
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Average life expectancy of a Ukrainian recruit in Bakhmut is 4 hours, that is horrific, cannot see any tactical advantage of throwing your troops in a meat grinder for no strategic advantage, I feel for these Ukrainians, I really do, lions led by donkeys.
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riosleftsock
11:57 Fri Mar 31
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Pickle - who's strategic collapse? I can't see how Bakhmut defeat for either side would lead to a strategic collapse for either side.
The issue is how many military units were killed, injured, surrendered or deserted.
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Hammer and Pickle
11:48 Fri Mar 31
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Of course Bakhamut is about to fall. Just like Severodonetsk in the summer, it’s a tactical gain at enormous cost that is about to turn into a massive strategic collapse.
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