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Darlo Debs 12:30 Wed Nov 5
Fairytales
There are some weird interpretations of fairy tales, having to do one for english lit.

If you were interpreting one, which would you choose and how would you interpret it?

I have chosen Rumpelstiltskin....weird fucked up morals in that one.

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Far East Hammer 3:24 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
Far East Hammerette had to look out a fairy tale for her English homework this week as it happens. She decided to find an unusual one and went with "The Buried Moon":

http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/eng/meft/meft24.htm

Obama The Hammer 2:19 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
ironsofcanada 2:04 Wed Nov 5

Fair play to you mate. That's what I used to love about academia (and particularly philosophy). Starting from a minimal premise - 'the subject of taste' - you get into profound positions with numerous connotations and implications. Aesthetic taste is in my opinion as much about an ethic as it is art.

Good luck with it.

I used to enjoy reading Derrida. I wrote a lot about the creativity of deconstruction. My masters was on the logic of true contradictions. (Fuck knows what I was on about, something to do with paradox!).

ironsofcanada 2:04 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
I am doing a D. Phil now, yes.

So (for me at least) that's the fascinating part, the word is evolving to include the idea of artistic or aesthetic preference and choice in the period Locke (and Milton and others) is writing. It is also beginning to take on a much more positive connotation.

The short answer is both as well as the relationship between all the meanings or the word.

I have read Bourdieu some, as well as bits of Derrida on it but have been fairly period focussed so far.

Obama The Hammer 1:42 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
ironsofcanada 1:33 Wed Nov 5

Really. Why so? Are you studying at the moment?

So do you mean taste as in the sensory experience, or more broadly taste in terms of our preference/choices for things? I know the French philosopher's Bourdieu, Bachalard and Canguilhem wrote about taste a lot.

ironsofcanada 1:33 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
Obama The Hammer 1:23 Wed Nov 5

I did political Locke way back when I was a poli sci undergrad but now I am looking at his ideas on taste, as both a precursor to the philosophy of taste in the next century and as a component of empiricism. And hopefully most uniquely whether his ownership of some ground-breaking French cookery books had any influence on those ideas. There are some colonial (just via his reading) connections in there as well.

Obama The Hammer 1:23 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
Darlo Debs 1:12 Wed Nov 5

So I'm thinking Hume V's Descartes then? Treatise of Human Understanding v's Descartes meditations.

I was always more of a Ideas over materiality person. But at some point I started writing about the materiality of immateriality. (Something like that anyway)

IOC - What you reading about Locke? I never really studied Locke - although I did like Stephen Pinker's book that claimed the 'Tabula Rasa' was the a priori ground of human givens.

Locke though was set up by my University department as a political philosopher more than anything. I preferred ontology and logic over politics.

ironsofcanada 1:20 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
Have fun.

Darlo Debs 1:19 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
shit I have just seen the time, better get to bed before the subject of infinite regress rears its head. Night

Darlo Debs 1:16 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
having to include Locke in my first marked essay... looking at Hume tomorrow.

ironsofcanada 1:14 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
Obama The Hammer 1:08 Wed Nov 5

My hat off to you sir. I very much enjoy it in limited doses but have to connect it back to something "real" or textual after a bit.

Doing Locke right now because I have access to his library.

Darlo Debs 1:12 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
yeah at the mo its rationalism v empiricism. I think we are going onto ethics next.

Obama The Hammer 1:11 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
*to do with

Obama The Hammer 1:10 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
I know I did - best way to get into German Idealism!

What you doing in philosophy. My guess would be either Descartes or something to with morality?

Darlo Debs 1:08 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
yeah its heavy stuff, a fair few of those early philosophers must have taken some real chemical enhancements,

Obama The Hammer 1:08 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
I have a Masters degree in philosophy - sent me mental but overall thoroughly enjoyed it!

ironsofcanada 1:07 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
*on its

ironsofcanada 1:06 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
I would not study its own, I have just incorporated some into my English lit. research.

Darlo Debs 1:05 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
accepted... don't do it again.

Darlo Debs 1:04 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
Irons I have philosophy tomorrow, can't say its my favourite subject ever.

Mr Polite 1:02 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
You're right I apologise

ironsofcanada 1:01 Wed Nov 5
Re: Fairytales
The original Sleeping Beauty (Sole, Luna, e Talia) is pretty dire. Being raped by an adulterer and having twins while still asleep. Stripping in courtyards and getting her children's father's wife burned in her stead after the woman has tried to get her husband to eat his children.

As the name might suggest it means something about the importance of the celestial cycles. Can't remember much now.

I have had to study a few more in years past, not sure I would want to again. I'll stick to cookery books, philosophy, epic poetry
and the like.

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